"The measure would have had no practical effect even if it had passed. Illegal immigrants — and indeed noncitizens as a whole — are not legally able to participate in federal elections."

Oh boy here we go again, you right wing nutjobs know my weakness from refraining to respond to ignorant right wing troll threads. Here we go again.

As you can see right wingers, no need to get your drawers in a knot. Funny, but we never hear a peep from the ignorant 'Make America Great (aka White) Again' crowd when white nativist / nationalist state legislatures want to illegally restrict voting rights to (mostly non white) citizens.

Maybe, just maybe the thinking is if we can get some illegals to vote legally, we can offset the attempt of voter suppression legislation we've seen passed the last few years by states where right wing Republican majority legislators want to restrict the vote of minority citizens. Disclaimer. Sarcasm intended to make a point.


Par4QC Illegal immigrants — and indeed noncitizens as a whole — are not legally able to participate in federal elections.

And I think they can get drivers licenses as well. I started drawing my Social Security benefits 7 years ago. I did all of my filing online but I wanted to deliver my W-V tax form in person since I couldn't file it online. I walked into the SS office and it was packed with young Hispanic people all with children. I was the only white dude there. I have been paying into the system since 1964. WTF are these people doing in "my" SS office?

      Can't remember one case where voter suppression was proven, except when I believe it was the black panther group with their clubs and such keeping voters away. BTW Sneakyone, never asked you to participate in this discussion, so please go away.

      Rickochet

      Oh, they're getting licenses and much more than that printed by illegals right there in Oregon. Before I get skewered. I saw this story the other day and the person named here was identified as an illegal.

      Anyone who thinks this idea isn't being used to help D's get elected is totally dishonest with themselves. We live in an upside down world.

      Never once until Sneak posted it did I ever associate MAGA with white. Never.

      https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2019/03/thousands-of-fake-government-ids-made-in-covert-lab-in-woodburn-were-sold-across-us-prosecutors-say.html

        Rickochet I walked into the SS office and it was packed with young Hispanic people all with children. I was the only white dude there. I have been paying into the system since 1964. WTF are these people doing in "my" SS office?

        Are you fucking serious? Your SS office? Did you go around and tell each Hispanic looking person you saw that (that) particular SS office was for white people only?

        Sometimes you Trump white nativists / nationalists just can't contain your racism. Disgusting.

            Sneakylong Are you fucking serious? Your SS office? Did you go around and tell each Hispanic looking person you saw that (that) particular SS office was for white people only?

            Sometimes you Trump white nativists / nationalists just can't contain your racism. Disgusting.

            Fuck You.

                Sneakylong Sometimes you Trump white nativists / nationalists just can't contain your racism. Disgusting.

                It's you that are the raciest one. You only see black and white. Go away, so the more intelligent among us may have a peaceful discussion.

                    Rickochet Fuck You.

                    Thank's for posting what I wanted to do. So sick of his shit.

                      Sneakylong

                      I understand both of your thoughts in this. "My" sounds awful. I believe he means that his local office is overrun by illegals seeking benefits. As he said, he's been paying into SS for 55 years and he sees people there that are trying to get benefits who just came across the border? That would be upsetting.

                      My thing is I don't begrudge illegals for doing what they're doing and would never refer to an office as "my". However, I completely understand where that sentiment comes from and anyone should be able to understand it.
                      It does remind of scripture where the workers in the vineyard were complaining about working longer while watching people show up at the end who received the same pay.

                        lambo What we are seeing is the pattern that has destroyed every democratic government in human history. Eventually in the power struggle those struggling for power seek popular support and eventually the masses vote themselves the treasury. Not enough riches and down comes the government into chaos and the masses destroy the nation.

                        What democratic governments? Like the fall of the Roman empire or maybe the French revolution where the starving have nots rose up against the pigs at the trough let them eat cake / fuck the poor crowd. Those were great examples of democracies. 😕

                        lambo We are no different and it is not difficult to understand when your realize the intelligent level of those becoming more prevalent in our elected offices.

                        I agree totally. This helps explain why we have an ignorant, petty, divisive, nasty, bully, racist, narcissist, con artist, xenophobe, pathological lying criminal, C minus student and totally over his head idiot, buffoon / defective human being in the oval office?

                            What the logic in being suppottive of people entering a country illegally and taking advantage of every benefit, including voting, without having paid a nickel into the system. I hear people support this but I never hear their logic. Claiming to not be racist is not a logical answer.

                              meagain Go away, so the more "IGNORANT" among us may have a peaceful discussion.

                              Fixed it for you. 😉

                                  Tinker What the logic in being suppottive of people entering a country illegally and taking advantage of every benefit, including voting, without having paid a nickel into the system. I hear people support this but I never hear their logic. Claiming to not be racist is not a logical answer.

                                  Things have changed a lot........I see Rick's point.

                                  The Social Security Act was signed into law by President Roosevelt on August 14, 1935. In addition to several provisions for general welfare, the new Act created a social insurance program designed to pay retired workers age 65 or older a continuing income after retirement.

                                      Sneaky, What makes you think that you are so much smarter than anyone else?

                                      sdandrea1 Things have changed a lot........

                                      The Social Security Act was signed into law by President Roosevelt on August 14, 1935. In addition to several provisions for general welfare, the new Act created a social insurance program designed to pay retired workers age 65 or older a continuing income after retirement.

                                      Say it ain't so!!

                                        Tinker

                                        I want to read this answer from Sneak.

                                        It's pretty clear why the left wants this. As I said above, anyone who denies why the left wants it is a liar. Everyone knows "minorities" (hate that word) vote for free stuff. Bringing in illegals is more voters who will vote straight ticket free stuff. A guy like Bernie or someone soon like AOC will be elected because there'll be enough people here who are voting for handouts not a hand up.

                                        We all like free stuff. I don't begrudge anyone for voting for free stuff but I certainly see why the House would pass this. If anyone says it's racist to question this they're one pathetic individual. Sadly, that sentiment seems to be flavor of the month. MAGA always meant to me to make America operate on common sense, not handouts and catering to a small segment of the population's wishes.

                                            Toulon Seen someone comment that a MAGA hat is the new white hood. I'm sure the Sneaky one will agree, and that shows his intelligence.

                                                I posted about "my" SS office since I have participated in it since '64. Anyone else who has also participated in the that system can also call it "theirs" and regardless of race, religion whatever.

                                                Sneakywrong posted, "Sometimes you Trump white nativists / nationalists just can't contain your racism. Disgusting."

                                                Sneakywrong you don't know a thing about me. Why do you assume that I am white or a Trump supporter?

                                                You are just too full of shitfuckery.