Swappa.com

Toulon

Anyone ever use it? I would really love if they branched out from just smartphones and tablets. 10 bucks flat selling fee.

I sold my first listing yesterday. Great place for phone and tablet hos.

jrock

That's pretty cool. Haven't seen it before.

Do you think something like that for golf gear would be valuable?

Toulon

jrock 100%, yes! People are hungry for a legit alternative to ebay. In my golf ho days, it would've been a dream to have a site like swappa for golf equipment. I think they're onto something over there that's why I lamented they just did phones and tablets.

You could fill the golf niche, Justin. Sky isn't even the limit, imo.

jrock

Toulon I've been thinking about that based on the amount of buy/sell/trades that happened on FGI. Do you think a standalone site like Swappa or something integrated into a community would work better? Or both?

Toulon

jrock A standalone site would be a winner. I would feed it or tie it in here best I could. Would be interesting how exactly integration would work.

Of course, some name dropping on WRX, etc...would really blow the site up. I think golf hos would love their own little corner of the Internet just for their golf equipment. Ebay is littered with a lot of golf stuff that the seller knows little about. Sometimes that's good in way of getting steals but I think golf guys would appreciate a place where all the sellers speak the language so to speak. I think that's what swappa has tapped into.

Toulon

I should add... the real draw of swappa is the protections or at least the illusion of them. When I placed my swappa listing it had to be approved by a staff member ensuring the phone isn't blacklisted and then they require photos with the listing number after approval to ensure you actually are selling what you stated.

In your case, you have a built in stable of guys you could kick work to who understand golf equipment like swappa guys understand phones and tablets.

You have all the technical ability and savvy to pull this off and be to golf hos what swappa is to phone hos.

Excited to see where you might be able to take it if you go all in.

jrock

Toulon Thanks for the feedback, really helpful.

I agree with everything you said. Where I'm stuck is that in both the case of FGI and Swappa, the community is what builds the trust. So how do you tie in this and other communities to a separate site to build that trust. Maybe it's as simple as linking to their account on a forum.

Facebook has also recently added for sale listings in groups. But you have to be on FB of course.

Toulon

jrock You have a wealth of bright guys here to bounce things off of.

With Swappa, I think it is a community not due to any previous associations, rather they have a very simple and clear expectation of those who use the site. They've defined it so simply that a guy like me who had never heard of them until recently felt comfortable enough to sell something there. I've been on ebay for over 6 years and never sold a thing. Swappa appealed to me and made me feel part of the community because it was simple to understand and it was solely about the target I was hoping to hit... cellphone hos. I had to put together a solid listing because they're literally watching. Buyers know this and can feel confident in purchasing safely. I just like what they do.

I've been part of Facebook sales groups for years. Nowhere near the aura of Swappa. You have zero clue how reputable anyone on there is. There is also uneasiness in meeting strangers. Never know what could go wrong there. Plus, once you drive away good luck rectifying a deal gone bad. You will never see them again and those communities are so big the same schmucks can just create new accounts and keep screwing people. I have been fortunate to have nothing but good experiences but it's truly a roll of the dice. I much prefer Swappa and actually feel better about them because they are pretty much singularly focused and understand cell phones and phone buyers. Not sure ebay gets that and I know a lot of these fb groups don't and couldn't do anything anyway.

I've contacted Swappa a bunch and they're super responsive and completely get it. Good luck with that on ebay or fb.

jrock

Toulon So sounds like the key is folks who know the space (ie. phone hos, golf hos) so the community can self-police and also provide accountability of members.

So the next question is would a site that have many verticals still work? Like if Swappa branched out into other areas like you said above, would the formula still hold true? Or do you need specialty sites/communities that support each area?

LBlack14

How do you pay/get paid?

jrock

LBlack14 Swappa adds a small fee on the buyer site on a successful purchase. But their listings include the fee up front so buyers don't feel marked up at the end. Similar to how StubHub does it.

Ex. Price shows as $100 for item. Buyer pays $100. Seller receives $95.

LBlack14

jrock Swappa adds a small fee on the buyer site on a successful purchase. But their listings include the fee up front so buyers don't feel marked up at the end. Similar to how StubHub does it.

Ex. Price shows as $100 for item. Buyer pays $100. Seller receives $95.

How do you pay/get paid? I don't know anything about stubhub.

jrock

LBlack14 How do you pay/get paid? I don't know anything about stubhub.

Are you asking how a buyer/seller gets paid? Or how the website (ex. Swappa) gets paid?

LBlack14

jrock Are you asking how a buyer/seller gets paid? Or how the website (ex. Swappa) gets paid?

Yep. I don't care how they get paid, they gonna take theirs regardless. I wanna know how dis ***** here get paid.

jrock

LBlack14 Haha gotcha. It's all done through PayPal on that site. One the purchase is made, you get your money right away (less any PayPal fees).

LBlack14

J, is there a PM or "chat" here yet? Sorry to change the subject.

jrock

http://www.golfbuzz.com/chat

Toulon

Justin... I tried replying to your last comment through my Gmail acct. Not sure if that made it's way to you, or not?

jrock

Toulon Hmm no I didn't see it. You tried posting via email or just emailing me?

You can email me at justin@golfbuzz.com if need be.

Toulon

jrock I responded on my phone when I saw that you'd responded to me. I just went ahead and replied on the email assuming it would get to you. I didn't see it bounce back, yet, so I figured it did make it.

I can just cut and paste what I wrote.

EDIT: The same guys couldn't do golf like they do phones so it would lose some for sure but developing the trust they have with phones would give them a shot. It would be better for or them to replicate the phone site with knowledgeable folks for whatever they branched into. They have found a winning formula.

--- If they were to proliferate and diversify without following the model they built themselves upon they'd be on their way to being another ebay. These singular focused sites with clear rules and familiar folks to the product is a big hit for me. Would love to see Swappa styled sites of all kinds of varieties. It's where I would go vs. ebay, FB, craigslist, etc.

I might be alone in what I've said...would love to hear what everyone else thinks.