There is always so much negativity when Tiger's game comes up in forums. He is clearly the greatest player of all time. Nicklaus never had his game or quality of competition on tour. Sure, he has had his personal problems but why judge him on his game. This is the first time he has been pain free in 5 years. He is good for the game as he brings the fans and excitement to a sport that really needs it. Ticket sales and TV ratings go up at least 40% when he plays. I love to watch him as a golf fan and hope he does well.
Does Tiger make the cut at the Honda this week?
Put Tiger's major championships in a box, then put Jack's major championships in a box.
Then tell me who has more.
It's that easy.
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Satisfying enough when there's a rather significant discrepancy in major wins. If there was only a 1 win-difference or a tie - I'd be more open to the debate.
But not when there are 5 major wins needed to eclipse the record.
That's fairly significant.
And, for all intents and purposes, unrealistic.
Celebrate him for being a great, great player from '97-2009, perhaps the greatest during that 12-year era. Just don't call him the greatest of all time, because based on major championships - he ain't. No excuses needed. You either have 18 or 19 majors and are part of the conversation or your don't.
Not
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Jack has a better major record....I don't particularly care about all the seconds, although it is interesting side conversation, which could go either way. Jack had more front runners to deal with, but after that, not much by way of depth of talent. Part of the reason Tiger did not have as many front runners is because he made it that way. Tiger is more Jordan like in his competitive nature, like a stone cold assassin. He wanted to destroy the competition. Tiger completely revolutionized the game to where it is today, good bad or in-between, the guys kicking ass right now watched TW growing up. In that regard Tiger has had much more of an actual impact on the game!
Would have loved to see Tiger v Jack mono y mono.
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Nicklaus shot a 30 on the back-nine at Augusta on Sunday back in '86, at 46 years of age, to win his 18th major.
And we're seriously having this discussion about a 14x major winner who was greater? Who couldn't lay off the competitive juice and ended up sacrificing his health and career due to injury?
Seriously?
What part of Dr. Anthony Galea do people prefer to not consider?
And he's still FIVE majors short of eclipsing Jack's record????!!!! LOL
Cut line presently at +4 .
Tiger should easily get into the weekend if it stays there.
PA-PLAYA yes, why not, wax poetic all you want about Jack, but Tiger is the only one we could have this conversation about. I still consider Jack's record better, but TW is right there. And the rest is just conjecture re Galea, etc. I hate the moral discussions about athletes, we have no idea who they really are. I'm sure Jack is a swell guy, but that doesn't give him extra points to being a better golfer. I think there are enough points to be made.about Tiger to say he was a better golfer than Jack, but Major record is not one of them. Tiger would need to win several times more, including a major for me to say he's better than Jack and yes I'm saying he does.not need to eclipse.Jacks major record.to be considered better
LeBron will not be considered greater than MJ until he either ties or bests Jordan’s record. It’s that simple.
Some will want to compare competitive eras, which is fine. I’ve got plenty of examples, between Trevino, Watson, Weiskopf and Palmer, to make an argument.
Who did Tiger have to overcome? Vijay Singh? Phil Mickelson? Who else? Please don’t tell me Rory Sabatini stood in Tiger’s way. Don’t try to validate Y.E. Yang’s victory back in 2009.
Compare who Jack finished 2nd to compared to who Tiger finished 2nd to.
Then get back to me.
PA-PLAYA no sh1t. MJ is a better player period. Bron will likely pass his stats and may equal out or come very close to MJ championships, but will never be considered GOAT by serious fans of.the game. 6-0. MJ,s run and his play and his game winners and his killer instinct will not be surpassed by Bron.
Championships should be the primary gauge but it's not the be all end all and stats and other factors are very important, case in point Terry Bradshaw v Joe Montana. Are they equals? And if not why so? What about Bill Russell? GOAT? I don't think so, a great player, but not even the best at his position.
Re Jack I think he is GOAT, but I also think Tiger is every bit the golfer Jack was. He had MJ,s killer instinct.
At T9 right now and playing well. Hardly anyone going low today.
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It's not quite that compelling. Tiger got his 14th win after 52 starts while Jack got his after 64 starts (both counted through the end of the calendar year of their 14th win). Still quite a higher percentage by Tiger, but not nearly the gulf that the overall records would indicate. And several of the other top major winners were contemporaries of Jack (Player - 9, Watson - 8, Palmer - 7, Trevino - 6) whereas, so far Phil leads Tiger's contemporaries with 5. At this time (current number of majors Tiger has started) in his career, Jack had just as many major wins as Tiger and Jack won 4 more after 1975, but we don't know if Tiger will ever win another.
Plop plop fizz fizz.
No MC!
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So how does this Tiger make the cut thread turn into who is the greatest and now into basketball? Why not include Olympic Curling?
Rickochet I am also watching Chamblee who has been a huge Tiger basher over the years rubbing his meat raw watching Tiger's play today with his new swing.
These jerking-off-watching-Tiger jokes never stop being funny. I laugh every time. It's true! I've never seen announcers salivate over even mediocre shots.
"Oh my, now he misses that putt but what a clean stroke... What a smooth... Oh... Oh mama... MAMA!!"
A great putter like Tiger should be a champ at curling too, but I think it might be hard on his back.
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Be careful if you keep this up Spuzz is going to have an orgasm.
Yes, He will make the cut.
letthebigdogshunt Be careful if you keep this up Spuzz is going to have an orgasm.
I felt a tingle when Tiger hit that ball in the water on the 15th.
Ten years ago I would expect Woods to be right in the hunt based on those in front of him. Today though I would be wishing for him to just have another decent round pain free. To me this is what he is really doing right now. He is just seeing if he can still play enough golf to be able to put himself in the hunt with a chance to win again. Right now his skill level is good, but not good enough to win. I am looking forward to see if he can play all year with no physical problems. Then perhaps the following years he may win again and even maybe a Major. Wish in one hand and defacate in the other and see which one fills up first? 
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Overall I thought his iron play was super and his short game did not show the rust as he did in the pat few years. And he burned the lip on a bunch of putts. Except for his boo boo on 15 today I thought he did very well.
I think TW is doing much better much faster than most thought he would. If the driver can become a weapon instead of a hindrance he's going to be a very dangerous player in the immediate future.
Nothing but positives for Tiger. Finished top-20, overall hit the ball pretty well. Still struggles controlling his driver, which has always been his bugaboo. But... seems like he's playing pain-free and able to swing without much concern, which is a big deal for him.
If he keeps up the positive trend over the next month, he'll definitely add to the interest level heading into Augusta.
Aside from that, I found it interesting that Thomas dropped a major celebratory F-bomb on the last putt in the playoff, at Jack's tournament no less. And CBS played it over and over at the end. I'm not going out on a limb here in assuming that Jack didn't appreciate that. Justin apologized, which was obviously to be expected. I am surprised however that CBS replayed it on at least three occasions.
Not that it offended me, but I think it's just indicative of how little respect a lot of these younger players have for not only the namesake of the tournament, but their own image as pro golfers. There was no need for that.
This wasn't the Phoenix Open.
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I found this very surprising as well. Watching it live I though uh-oh, he (Thomas) let one slip there. But then CBS kept playing it over and over without edit? It seems that someone should've caught this and limited it to a matter of "did he say that" instead of "yup, no question he said that".
PA-PLAYA Aside from that, I found it interesting that Thomas dropped a major celebratory F-bomb on the last putt in the playoff, at Jack's tournament no less. And CBS played it over and over at the end. I'm not going out on a limb here in assuming that Jack didn't appreciate that. Justin apologized, which was obviously to be expected. I am surprised however that CBS replayed it on at least three occasions.
Not that it offended me, but I think it's just indicative of how little respect a lot of these younger players have for not only the namesake of the tournament, but their own image as pro golfers. There was no need for that.
He is from my hometown and I have always been a fan but I am losing respect for him by the day. A tourney or a few back he had a major on air club throwing and stomping hissy. Very unprofessional.