To be honest, cpanther, you're killin' me, too. I would like to try these because I think they look like a nice wedge. But for some reason, I just can't get excited enough about wedges to spend money on them, particularly in my current situation. Maybe I haven't tried enough wedges, but I haven't really noticed much difference from one wedge to the next, and I hit my current wedges pretty well. Frankly, I would like to make an offer and work something out with you (even though your current offer is plenty fair), but unfortunately commonsense, my bank account, and my wife all trump my curiosity.