Dumbest Thing I've read today, via the internet......

Sneakylong I believe you. That's why I used the car/plane analogy. I feel safer in the car even though I'm in, statistically, greater danger.

So the belief has to be that I'm smarter than the statistics. I have no kids, and we rarely have visitors but when we do the gun is locked up. I guess if I was inclined to kill someone else or myself the gun would make it easier.

In a home invasion situation, am I more or less safe with my gun? Knowing that the invaders are most likely armed, would I be better off not having a gun?

I would rather live in a world without guns. I would support effective gun control, but I haven't seen any good ideas about keeping guns away from the worst people. I sure don't want the bad guys to be the only ones who have them.

Human trafficking is highly illegal, right? Doesn't that still happen all over the world? Guns don't even need to eat or go to the bathroom. Hard to imagine anyone can remove guns from the hands of the bad folks.

ZWExton Hard to imagine anyone can remove guns from the hands of the bad folks.

That's because it can't be done.

Even if, somehow, someway, it was possible... the criminals would find another way to kill.

jrock No need to make it private. Most of us here are adults. If some folks can keep the death threats to a minimum, everyone will get along fine.

Sneakylong

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/05/foghorn/debunking-mother-jones-10-pro-gun-myths-shot/

JeffTilley it's no use. They can find a website written by a stupid liberal for every website you post authored by a knowledgeable conservative.

The only thing that makes any sense is the fact that criminals are always going to have their guns. All I know, is that when someone comes in the door with a gun whether I'm at home, at the grocery store, a movie, or anywhere in between, I want to have a fair shake in determining whether I live or die. You'd think that'd be elementary, but apparently it is not.

Sneakylong

In 2007, former cop and volunteer security worker, Jeanne Assam, saved the day at New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Thousands of people were exiting from Sunday mass that day as the shooter opened fire. However, Assam ran toward the line of fire, killing the shooter and saving countless lives.

An 18­-year-­old mother saved the life of herself and her baby in Blanchard, Oklahoma. There, a knife-wielding intruder was attempting to enter Sarah McKinley's mobile home shortly after her husband died of lung cancer in 2012. After breaking in, McKinley fired, killing one suspect and scaring the other intruder off.

A 71­-year-­old man saved the lives of many at an internet cafe in Florida in 2012. When robbers entered the cafe with weapons, Samuel Williams pulled out his gun and scared off the suspects.

... and many more...

puttnfool
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"

Tucker's good and these folks are fast to remove all doubt.

LBlack14 my favorite part is when his eye blinks uncontrollably when he knows he's spewing total bullshit.

Another...

http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/10/991022-anti-gun-reporter-spent-months-researching-case-gun-control-no-one-expected-final-results/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=owned&utm_term=ijamerica

Sneakylong

Dude, every time you use Mother Jones, Slate, Vox, Huffpost, or a myriad of other liberal thought police websites for your sourcing, I just gotta sit back and smfh. Try using statistics gathered by a legit source for once, not some made up liberal shit. They cherry pick data so it fits their narrative.

He may be cherry picking data from liberal websites, but there's no argument that people with a gun in their home are less safe, not safer, from gun violence. One you bring that gun into your home you make it more likely, not less likely, that somebody in your home is going to be injured by a gun.

Why? Because now there's a gun in your home. An intruder didn't bring it there, you did. Overestimating the risk of an armed intruder is at the root of the problem. They are not coming for you. Therefore your family is safe from gun violence unless you introduce the weapon into the home, then all bets are off.

Seems like it would be elementary, but apparently it is not.

LBlack14 "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"

I was just thinking that as I read through this thread.

rsvman rsvman

Show me some unbiased numbers here-how many lives lost by gun vs how many saved by gun, in the home. Remember, unbiased. And here’s a nugget for you-why are you 3 times more likely to be a victim of violent crime in urban areas vs rural areas, when gun control is much more strict in urban areas?

rsvman

See, this is the exact mindset that unlawful criminals want activists to have, the mindset that really pinpoints the fallacies of the liberal arguments as it relates to 2A.
If I’m a thief/criminal in the business of casing homes for burglaries - which homes am I more targeting - homes that are owned by people who have no means of personal defense, or homeowners who do?

Do you honestly think I’m just gonna let a drug-induced criminal break my door in at 2:00 in the morning, threaten my family, steal and vandalize my personal property, without having some means to defend my family and my property?

I don’t give a fuck what the statistics are, as long as I have the ability to not become one of them.

I’ve broken no laws. I keep my firearms secure, like a responsible gun owner should. I see absolutely no reason why my preference would put you or anyone else at risk, unless of course you decide I have something you want inside my house and are willing to risk your life to trespass my property and take it unlawfully.

I just described an overwhelming majority of legal gun owners in this country.

Wanna do some good - go after the criminals, gangbangers and drug dealers who cause 95% of the gun-related deaths in this country.

People are up in arms over Vegas, but more people were killed in Chicago last month.

Address the real problem.