Iron Fitting question/clarification

Seymore101

Got some questions regarding a fitting experience I had recently. I didn't get to see alot of the numbers, but I could feel the differences and see the results, as it was at a range. I tend to hit down pretty well on the ball, and make solid contact. Ping guy says that I am delofting the club, why would he put me down for "powerspec" and reduce the lofts even more? He has me in a Project X shaft to reduce the spin, and lower the trajectory of the shot, but I don't know why I would need to reduce the loft on the iron head too. Let me know if you need more info or what possible reason makes sense. The proshop guy was trying to tell me that I must be helping the ball up, and I need to reduce the loft to help get more distance. I pushed back a bit, and told him I was actually delofting it, he deflected, and didn't seem to have a good answer.

scotts33

Seymore101 If you are flipping/helping the ball up per pro shop guy then you are also not de-lofting. It's hard to do both also I "fit" on turf not mats or indoors. The truth will be thru video and the dirt ie. divots.

You can help yourself by going out to range (off grass not mats) and take some video side and down the line and see what you are doing. Check your divot patterns. That way you can be an informed consumer.

KCee

Maybe a @Typhoon or @scotts33 question. IMO if you deloft the club then you probably don't need stronger lofts. I tend to deloft my irons and prefer more traditional lofts. I can always hit a stinger with no problem, but hitting the ball higher is tougher and I like that I can still hoist it over some trees at my home course. Today's clubs can allow for better performance at lower lofts though so maybe you have enough swing speed to use less loft?

Seymore101

I strike down on the ball, and try to never hit off the matts. We were outside, I am definitely not helping it up. I have a pretty well shaped and consistent divot when hitting it well. I don't think that guy in the pro shop knew what he was talking about. The guy at the range told me I was about 93mph with a 7 iron, and had very consistent front to back distance control. My spin numbers were high (8k), but he blamed that on the range ball a bit. I am playing Ping I25's now, but was hitting their I540's for the fitting.

scotts33

Seymore101 How are the impact labels and are impacts center of club?

Seymore101

Slightly towards the toe, he suggested 1/4" under, i currently have standard length

scotts33

Seymore101 Did he change heft and see where and if the impact moves. If you have a decently repeatable swing adding heft will move impact towards center. And then he will check lie dynamically with ball marked like this.

Seymore101

He didn't explain much about the different shafts when he was changing them. I don't think there was much weight difference in them though, from what I can tell. There were two guys from Ping there, and I got the super quiet guy versus the chatty one. I did not have to pay anything for the fitting, and it seems I got what I paid for.

scotts33

Seymore101 Agreed. The kind of fitting I am speaking of is not the normal 1/2" length, swing weight based and if you go that route you will be changing your upper torso and athletic address portion on each club. What you did is so called fitting by major brands is called marketing not true fitting. The majority of golfers now are "fitted" this way. No wonder the game is so hard. ☺

PGA/LPGA players can be "fit" this way as they practice and practice and practice and still don't fit for playing length/lie and heft this way.

shokosugi

One thought... Since you have a pretty high speed, maybe you need powerspec lofts to maximize distance. The i540 are designed to launch high so maybe you need to bring down launch and/or spin. It also depends on the shafts you were hitting- maybe they were launching too high or were too spinny with them. Which shafts were you hitting- PX 6.0 or 6.5?

Seymore101

6.5, I had wondered if there wasinfo like that, I wasn’t aware of