Zero Torque Putters

garyt1957 · 2025-10-01T18:30:01+00:00

Who has tried/ uses one? Does it work? Did you adjust your stroke as recommended?

Sneakylong

garyt1957

Yeah, I had some clone irons from Diamond Tour Golf ~ 20 years ago. They looked like a Callaway iron that was out then.

But they weren’t deceiving anyone calling them Callaway.

Sneakylong

Par4QC You are talking about a company that does not even know what a golf club is, and more than likely, very likely imo, has no clue about LAB. They have no direct dealings with such items.

I guess the only way to know if they are allowing L.A.B. putters to be sold on notoriously known websites that sell counterfeit fakes is to call and ask them. 🙄 I’ll get right on it tomorrow. lol

Seems the new owners copied the business model of Warren Buffett. Buy a well run company and leave the management in place to continue to run the company.

“After being acquired by private equity firm L “Catterton in mid-2025, L.A.B. Golf is still run by its founder and CEO, Sam Hahn, who remains in place to lead the company's growth, supported by the new ownership and increased resources for R&D and global expansion. The acquisition by L Catterton, backed by LVMH, aims to scale the brand while preserving its innovative DNA, with Hahn overseeing operations and product development.”

“Who's Running It: Sam Hahn remains as CEO (and co-CEO), continuing to lead the company's vision, along with the established team.“

Par4QC

Sneakylong See how dumb I am?
I already knew all that.
And still made the posts that I made.

But wait a minute....what does this really mean?......

'increased resources for R&D and global expansion'.

'aims to scale the brand while preserving its innovative DNA'

Could that possibly mean these heads are the real thing, and 1000's now being sold instead of just a few 100, in all markets worldwide????

No, never.🤔

Is it coincidence that these heads/clubs hit the market at the same time/shortly after other companies came out with ZT putters?

Sneakylong

Par4QC Could that possibly mean these heads are the real thing, and 1000's now being sold instead of just a few 100, in all markets worldwide????

Highly improbable. Think about it. The management at L.A.B. makes a business decision to sell their real L.A.B. putters on Temu and AliExpress which are known for selling counterfeit fakes.

They’d be basically saying good luck it’s on you to determine if it’s authentic or a counterfeit. 😏

Are Titleist, Callaway and Ping etc. dumping their authentic clubs on Temu and AliExpress mixed in with the fakes? Both heavily discounted. lol

Both Temu and AliExpress are known for selling unauthentic fakes. It’s part of their business model. But believe what you want.😎

And I don’t think the people that buy these counterfeit putters believe they’re authentic L.A.B. putters.

Btw. How’s Calib doing. lol

Par4QC

Sneakylong Btw. How’s Calib doing.

FYI.....worst QB in the 2025 NFL. (giving JJ credit for not many games played)

Sneakylong

Par4QC FYI.....worst QB in the 2025 NFL

Yeah, but he may have that clutch gene. He misses too many layups, but may have the ‘it’ factor for winning. Time will tell. His completion percentage is a little low at 58%, but he should continue to improve.

Try and enjoy this season. Bears fans have waited a long time.

sdandrea1

jsippy73 Thanks for that info. I'll remember that when I buy another Louis Vuitton product.

😂😂😂😂😂

Par4QC

Sneakylong Got an arm on him, for sure.

My wife was a huge Bears fan....I've been in/out with them, admittedly. Was even pulling for GB last night, unashamed.
But still smiled after the game.😉

Sneakylong Bears fans have waited a long time.

I think what we've been waiting on, seemingly forever, is a real coach(es). The confidence factor(alone) they've instilled, shows with the number 11!!

Sneakylong

Might take a ride tomorrow and try one of these below. Odyssey has the shaft further forward in the head (of any low torque putters) so you don’t have as much if any forward press.

I have the Mini Jailbird from 2 years ago. Never played a center shafted putter. I’m a somewhat handsy putter. So not sure zero torque will work for me.

I have a gift card from Christmas and will sell my Scotty Newport Select M2 if I like the new Odyssey to lessen the sticker price shock ($549.99).😳

ode

Sneakylong are you going to bring an Ali/Temu with to compare!

Typhoon

Sneakylong The Taylormade ZT also is like that. Only 1 degree vs 3 degrees on a DF3

Sneakylong

ode are you going to bring an Ali/Temu with to compare!

Ha, ha……. Haven’t seen any fake “exact copies” of the Odyssey Square to Square putters. lol But then again, I’m not interested in imitations. Would never wear a fake Rolex etc..

Have zero problems with an imitation that admits it’s a fake copy. Just don’t label it as the real deal.

Oh, I alternate between 3 watches. A Tissot from 1993. A Tiffany from my retirement in 2002. And another Tissot from a few years ago. All the real deal.

Nothing fake. I have to be able to sleep at night. lol. We all have our idiosyncrasies. I’ve spent a small fortune on golf clubs the last 25 years. But have known guys who cheap out on fake golf clubs, but drive a $75,000 - $100,000 dollar Cadillac.

Again, whatever makes you sleep at night. The real deal golf clubs will be around longer than the real deal Cadillac. lol

Sneakylong

Went in to try the Odyssey Zero Torque and ended up with this. Tried the TM Spider Zero Torque as well. The insert on the OZ1i is supposed to be firmer feel wise. Felt fine. Got the standard True Temper steel shaft.

Better if you tend to leave putts short or so they say. Play an orange ball, so the contrast against the black looks good. Also, didn’t initially notice the forward shaft lean. No bother at all.

VigilanteTrail

Sneakylong

That wraparound insert is similar to my @LogicalOne putter…but obviously the OZ is bigger 😆

I too find the feel of that insert design to be just fine

Sneakylong

Here's a video with Bill Presse one of the co-founders of L.A.B.. Some interesting info / tips. Also, he equates low / zero torque putters to like when the Big Bertha changed golf. Sees a day when high torque putters go the way of persimmon woods.

Typhoon

I think of them as more like the when the Adams Tight Lies fairway woods came out.

Sneakylong

Typhoon I think of them as more like the when the Adams Tight Lies fairway woods came out.

They came out right around the time I got back into golf (2000). I played them and they were very good with their upside down ‘tech’.

Time will tell with these zero torque putters. Drivers and irons seem to be maxed out. I’m a decent lag putter, but would like to make more shorter putts from ~ 8 feet and in.

I have a straight back and thru stroke. But the head wobbles around too much on my take back. I was draining everything in the putting corral yesterday.

It came down to basically a coin flip between the Odyssey and the L.A.B.. Already have a Jailbird which is face balanced, so went with the L.A.B..

Typhoon

Sneakylong the head wobbles around too much on my take back

Speed up your putting tempo. It reduces/eliminates the wobble on the backswing. You would be suprised to see how quick a PGA pros putting tempo is. Amateurs, me included for a long time, are much slower. It’s amazing how it works!

If you watch a tour pro it doesn’t look quick so we don’t give it a second thought and it’s something nobody talks about.

Sneakylong

Typhoon

Yeah, I’ve tried that. Makes sense. It’s the same with a full swing. The Pro’s have finished their swing by the time amateur’s have started down.

Typhoon

You can look up Tour tempo on putting and then download a metronome on your phone. See what the Tour number is and then hit putts which the metronome. It will feel funny when u try to match their tempo but you’ll notice how its just “bang bang” with no time to manipulate the putter head with your hands.

Typhoon

Sneakylong it’s just one of those stupid things someone came up…. “Slow down your backswing”… “ keep your head down”…

At our golf school the guy that runs it always preaches slowing down your backswing. I don’t say anything.

Typhoon

Sneakylong I’ve speeded up my backswing as well to get a “rebound effect” to increase clubhead speed.

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