garyt1957 Of course, my Q was in jest.
I don't care about those numbers as they are meaningless. The 455 was a great head, still is, and when I've used them, they have been about as long and as forgiving as anything new today. To say they were not/are not forgiving is to say you've never used one.

But people will argue this point forever.......'gotta have the numbers'.....bullshit. How do you know those numbers are what they say? How do they help our pathetic swings?

Only number from a driver head, that matters, is when the ball stops after you hit it. The number any OEM tells you about a head, is meaningless.

But let's all of us (??)200 yd. hitters worry about the MOI of a head.

The only 'K' I want from a driver head is $K. And that ain't happening.😄

      SMT Well damn. I did learn something from that vid, right at the start......MOI is what head twisting is all about.

      And all these years I thought that was the shaft.
      Now shaft torque is meaningless. Why do they mention it in specs?

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          Par4QC Well damn. I did learn something from that vid, right at the start...

          I wanna say "me too", but I have been at it too long.

          What some SHOULD learn is that people who need to talk that much are tryin' to sell something.

              Lol, I see we moved on to the third MOI.

              SMT people who need to talk that much are tryin' to sell something.

              Can you tell what a damned hard sell I must be?🤣

                  Par4QC Can you tell what a damned hard sell I must be?🤣

                  You are a softie, pushover - by the way, I have a 15K MOI driver head you’ll love. 🥴

                      Eguller
                      I'll let ya know.

                      Right now I'm working on the formula for the latitude & longitude of this driver head I have.
                      Trying to figure how long it will hit & if it stay clear of the lateral water hazards.

                      Maybe I should just lay up.🤔

                          Show me the drive that corrects the over the top, 3* closed at impact swing and I’ll give a rats ass. Until then, they are all going left when I miss. Unless something is going to automatically widen the landing area, a miss is a miss.

                          For most goobers out there is over the top and 5* open at impact, so either way you look at it, to tell me it will twist less when you miss by 1/4 of an inch on an acceptable swing path… meh.

                          Par4QC laying up is telling the course designer they are better than you, Jesus says that’s not true. Hit driver, you only get to loop this earth for so long.

                              bad9 The first (and last time) I was on a launch monitor, the screen read..... "have you ever thought of taking up bowling?"

                                DC300 laying up is telling the course designer they are better than you, Jesus says that’s not true. Hit driver, you only get to loop this earth for so long.

                                Every time I hit driver, I'm laying up..😔

                                    bad9 Amen. My launch monitor numbers would tell you I shouldn't play golf but I am a solid 14 cap and a good driver of the ball, even though I'm not hitting it 180.

                                    Fixed it.......

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