What Are You Working On For Your Game

Typhoon · 2024-06-26T03:17:34+00:00

I think this might be a fun and helpful thread. People can say what they are working on and what they are trying to fix. Discuss things you did to fix prob...

Par4QC

I'm no Max Homa, nor a Sneakylong, but my ball striking has never been better either. Not sure why or how, but I do know I'm not going to be questioning it, nor delving into. And most assuredly, will never give it any thoughts when standing over the ball.
Maybe I'm just mad. In both defs of the word. 🤣

Sneakylong

Par4QC

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.👍. Some of us are more analytical and want to know the why. The how is much more difficult for all of us. The goal is to get the how automatically engrained in our swing. Easier said than done.

But most of us work on what amounts to style that has no benefit in the long run.

rsvman2

Sneakylong I think (emphasis on the word think) I get into a similar position with a much easier swing thought, which is simply to turn back and then swing through 'to one o'clock.'

It is impossible to swing out to one o'clock if you start the downswing even remotely with an 'over the top' move.

Sneakylong

rsvman2

Yeah, again each of us has our own feels. I want my back swing to be below my shoulder. Then I just swing under. That swing thought works for me.

Everyone has their own feels. But if you look at all good ball strikers this is where they get in the downswing. The shaft is more in line with their trail forearm.

braveheart

Braveheart here. I wanted to get a draw back and have less of a right side miss using a driver. First, it was an equipment change (thanks Typhoon)as the driver I formally used (SIM) made it extremely difficult. Secondly, I tend to be too quick back and forth with an all arms swing. So what I am doing now is to take it back a little slower and let my left heel rise. I plant that heel as my trigger while keeping my head behind the ball at impact. Before I’d sway forward too much and not turn, especially when going too fast. I have had more consistency in fairways hit and have seen more of the elusive draw I wanted back.
Some of you mentioned, pulling putts left. That has been my miss on shorter distances that I hope to fix. I use left hand low, doing well on lag putts and used to be automatic on the short ones. So some of the fixes or thoughts here may help me.

scotts33

JMO but if you don't understand YOUR golf swing and know how to dissect it a bit you'll never be able to self fix when it goes off the rails and it will at some points or points. ☺ By that I mean general set up/structure which is 9 times out of 10 the culprit. We get so lazy thinking we use the same set up but it can get off so fast. It's why Nicklaus could self fix at a tourney site he'd call up Jack Grout they'd talk a bit and he'd self fix. Nicklaus didn't have a team nor do we. 😀

The best thing to come about in the last 20 years is the cell phone camera so easy to shoot down the line and side.

sdandrea1

Sneakylong I have not been a solid ball striker my whole golf life.......

Neither have I, nor am I. Once I get this move complete, I gotta go try and learn to hit the ball off the ground.

Sneakylong

My takeaway that I work on is similar to what Marcus Emblad advocates. I feel I pull the club back with my right (trail) hand / wrist / arm and then push down and under in the downswing. No pulling down. It’s basically a hockey shot move. Pull then push.

Btw, nice to see Marcus back. He was gone for several months fighting cancer. Like his simple approach to the golf swing.

rsvman2

Sneakylong That is actually a terrible start to the backswing.,imo. He says you want the club 'on the side of your body,' but you really don't; the club is always in front of your body. It seems like it is on the side because your body has turned.

Sneakylong

rsvman2

Yeah, he does an inside takeaway. I don’t think I get anywhere inside as he does. Nor do I get as high in the backswing.

But actually it’s a good move if you can swing down from the inside. And not come over the top. You have a better chance of hitting a draw.

The main point I was making is pulling the club back with your trail hand and pushing back down. Pulling down is a death move for me. His hockey slap shot is a perfect analogy.

My natural swing has me taking the club back slightly outside. So just taking it back slightly inside feels way inside to me.

Once again, no need to take the whole bottle of medicine. lol. With most golfers being too steep and outside / in, this can help with that.

I also feel my right hand lift the club up with a combination of radial deviation and extension in the right wrist. That’s the pull feel going back. Then that right wrist pushes down and under to smack the ball. 🏌️

sdandrea1

rsvman2

What's interesting is all the conflicting swing methods being demonstrated/taught on-line and in person. Instructors have all these moves that contradict other instructors' moves and yet yeild solid shots FOR THEM. There is no correct or incorrect swing method. There's apparently many ways to return the club to the ball in order to hit it solid and on the intended line/flight. I'm still looking for mine. I'm pretty happy off the tee and with chipping and putting, but man do I suck with full shots off the turf. I can score well enough but I'd sure like to strike it better.

garyt1957

rsvman2 He says you want the club 'on the side of your body,' but you really don't; the club is always in front of your body.

This actually set off a light bulb for me when I heard it. I'll have to watch it again but I don't think he said "you want the club off the side of your body" I think he said "you want to swing off the side of your body". Might be semantics but when I saw him demonstrate a light bulb went off in my head. Now, I've had so many golf swing light bulbs go off in my head I could light half the country so it may be nothing. But when I took a club in the yard and swinging half-3/4 speed and trying to "swing off the side of my body" I had a very nice in to out swing and the club was still in front of me. I'll be very interested to try this move on the course.

Par4QC

sdandrea1 I never watch those vids. Watching them, and doing what they show to do, and how to do, simply(imo) means they want you to swing as they do. And that is impossible, for any one of them. If we were to 'copy' a swing, I'm sure we could find someone more famous to copy, than those making the clickbait 'Im-getting- paid hits-for this' vids!!

Greatest golf instruction I ever heard was.......

"Inside each and every one of us is one true authentic swing... Somethin' we was born with... Somethin' that's ours and ours alone... Somethin' that can't be taught to ya or learned..."

rsvman2

sdandrea1 Totally agree. There are a million 'swing methods' and all of them work, to some extent, or for some group of people.

Sneakylong

sdandrea1 What's interesting is all the conflicting swing methods being demonstrated/taught on-line and in person

Most of these methods would be categorized as style. I can play decent golf and shoot good scores with my natural vertical down swing. That’s my natural ‘style’.

But I’m all about hitting solid shots. I’ve clanged the ball around and broke 80 too many times to remember. And I can hustle my ball around the course with different style swings.

I do believe though there is an optimum position for solid ball striking with the shaft in line with the trail forearm at last parallel in the downswing. Or as close as possible.

All good players get close to this. Problem for me and many others is how do you get in that position? If you’re real good you can have any kind of backswing and drop it in the slot on the way down.

Most of us hackers will find this difficult to do intuitively. It’s natural in a baseball swing. But once we bend over all bets are off. Therein lies the problem with the golf swing.

Sneakylong

garyt1957 This actually set off a light bulb for me when I heard it.

You never know what swing tip will work for you. That’s the beauty of the internet.

garyt1957

garyt1957 This actually set off a light bulb for me when I heard it. I'll have to watch it again but I don't think he said "you want the club off the side of your body" I think he said "you want to swing off the side of your body".

So I tried this on the back 9 yesterday after a pitiful front. Worked like a charm. As a lifetime OTTer, you can't come OTT doing this. Another problem I've always had is not being able to keep my head back. No problem with this swing thought. Hit some absolutely great shots and a couple clunkers where I lost my concentration for a bit. Now for the bad part, my back is killing me today. Not the lower back but more like the lower right lat area. Like really sore and I have a basketball game tonight.
I'll give it some time to calm down and will likely try it again one more time. Maybe those muscles just aren't used to being used in that manner. If it hurts again, time to move on. But man it seems to have potential.

scotts33

Par4QC Inside each and every one of us is one true authentic swing

Will Smith in The Legend of Bagger Vance. Good movie. The plot is loosely based on the Hindu sacred text the Bhagavad Gita. From a 1995 novel by Steven Pressfield. Jack Lemmon's last movie in 2000.

Sneakylong

Par4QC was.......

"Inside each and every one of us is one true authentic swing... Somethin' we was born with... Somethin' that's ours and ours alone... Somethin' that can't be taught to ya or learned..."

They cut out the rest of Smith’s dialogue. ‘And that’s why most peoples authentic swing won’t allow them to break 100.’ lol

scotts33

Golfers all want to "feel" good about the precepts (swing) that they follow or the equipment purchases that they make. They don't want to "feel" bad about their devotion to how they perceive their swing or the equipment in their bag.

I think the best playing partners I have played with over the years aren't worried how they play or look playing the game or how their equipment performs. They all enjoyed the interaction with the turf and the walk. These players live in their constant and enjoy the moment. These folks I want to play with.

The issue, I have with the golfers that can't enjoy a round with the way they play and constantly yammer about that shot was bad and give you a diatribe as they go around the course of this and that and make it unenjoyable for the others they are playing with.

I like the idea of working on the mental aspects of the game and just learn to enjoy life. Think of how can I make my round more enjoyable for myself and the others and not worry so much about what equipment I use or what my swing does or doesn't. Who did I make laugh today? ☺

braveheart

scotts33
Exactly, why I play with different people now. They enjoy the shots they make and don't dwell on the negative. Had a partner who I love as a friend but he made a round tough to take for the reasons you mention.

Par4QC

Sneakylong ‘And that’s why most peoples authentic swing won’t allow them to break100.’

Only because, like in the movie, they have not found it yet.

I started playing 50 years ago, in '74. I'm 1 of those players that Scott mentioned above.....don't give a damn what I look like out there. And I don't try to change any part of my swing via vid watching.
I got mine!! Found it many years ago.

I also go with another movie quote.....

"A man's got to know his limitations."

I know mine, on course.

fatshot

For the last year or two, I've been playing everything out of a closed stance, probably b/c that's what you hear all the "experts" recommend to us seniors to add some distance. Lately though, I find that I've been cutting the ball slightly and letting the ball creep up to the front of my stance. It doesn't "look" right or "feel" right to me. So I think tomorrow I'll try to go back to a square stance, move the ball back a bit towards center, and see what that does for me (if anything!). We'll see.....

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