GHIN changes for 2024

Typhoon · 2023-12-10T13:31:26+00:00

Have you guys gone to the USGA site and checked out the changes? I can’t believe this one… Biggie is a 9 hole score will get posted as an 18 hole score with...

Eguller

Weirfan As for the comment about fatigue and lack of focus ??? Its Golf, the least physically challenging sport on the planet, not a triathl

Many better Am golfers carry their bags or generally walk and push/elec cart it. Even the Pros will mention
fatigue and waning focus as issues - look at Tiger as an example. IMO it would vary from little to moderate, to
in Tiger's case quite a bit. JMO.

Weirfan

Eguller

I dont buy it. I walk, i carry, I push/pull ....no issues.
At Desert Storm we play 36/day in hot temps, might get a bit tired at the end of the day.

Tiger hadn't played a round of golf in 6 months, he was admittedly out of shape. Heck he doesn't even carry his bag.

Again, we are talking less than 5% of golfers who keep a handicap. Add that this only applies to when you play nine holes, which for me might have been 5 or 6 of 85 rounds and it's a big nothing burger. Just people doing their usual whining when something has changed.
They did the same last time rule changes came about a couple years ago and now everyone accepts them and those changes have been beneficial from my perspective.

Also it's still the lowest 8 of 20 differentials used for calculating handicap so things will even out over time.

DonM

Eguller We have a 9 hole ladies group who never play 18.

How’s that going to work.

I think they will have a handicap index that is an 18 hole handicap. Well I guess they already have that now. But the new one will be more accurate in their case.

DC300

Typhoon but wouldn’t that be factored in ? The expected score should be your handicap vs the holes coming up. If you only record the front 9 multiple times over, I see the issue.

I guess it’s actually better for me if I ever keep a formal cap again, I almost always suck for 9 and shoot well on the back, so a single 9 is just bad anyway. I’ll be a solid 25 😂

Weirfan

DC300

I don't think you are an anomaly ( not with this topic anyways) . Many people are the same , particularly if they are like me and don't warm up and just go to the first tee.

DC300

Weirfan agreed, I played 3 rounds last year with more than a 10 stroke difference from front to back. So if I was just recording 9 hole rounds. It would be very likely, my cap would be much higher than it really should be. If I get to the range before I play, it could be a really unfair advantage. Looks like I know how to record my rounds now 😂

Typhoon

Weirfan Golf, the least physically challenging sport on the planet, not a triathlon

Gotta agree there… any time you can play a sport while drinking beers, getting high and riding around instead of walking like it was meant to be…. It becomes simply an “activity”.

sdandrea1

Typhoon

I think of golf as a game, not a sport. IMO.

Bravopilot

Typhoon Not sure if I need to go to Billerica or avoid it altogether. What is the town motto?😎

Eguller

sdandrea1 I think of golf as a game, not a sport. IMO.

… and that is how the fight started. 🤣

Forged or cast. 🥴

DonM

We have a lot of slopes to climb up and down from the cart path to the greens. I get a lot of steps when I play golf even using a cart. And my heart rate is 30-40 points higher for 4 hours than it is sitting in a chair. So it's decent exercise.

garyt1957

DonM We have a lot of slopes to climb up and down from the cart path to the greens. I get a lot of steps when I play golf even using a cart. And my heart rate is 30-40 points higher for 4 hours than it is sitting in a chair. So it's decent exercise.

I've been more tired from riding certain courses than walking others because as you say every green is uphill or downhill. Many holes you can't park within 50 yards of the green, etc. I find I just don't do well standing for 4 hours. I can play basketball for a couple hours and feel great but I'm stiff after golf.

sdandrea1

DonM

On days I play 18 with a cart, I average 13k+ steps. I don't know how many I get on the course though. Heart rate is elevated as well. It's not a sedentary activity.

garyt1957

Typhoon Wow, I would think hdcps could drop a lot this way . It's a lot easier to shoot a good 9 then keep it going for 18

Typhoon

garyt1957 Wow, I would think hdcps could drop a lot this way . It's a lot easier to shoot a good 9 then keep it going for 18

Which is why it’s maybe not correct.

sdandrea1

garyt1957 It's a lot easier to shoot a good 9 then keep it going for 18

Giphy - Doc Brown GIF by Back to the Future Trilogy

garyt1957

Typhoon Many times I’ll shoot 3-4 under on the front and be lucky to be -1 on the back.

OH, the horror!

rsvman2

On the other hand, on my best round last year I was already four over after the first two holes but played the next 16 two other total.
So, at least on some occasions the first nine might be worse than the second.

pike51

It's dumb. On one hand, they were encouraging 9 hole rounds to "grow" the game..,. quick 9 and all that jazz. Now if you play 9, they'll just make up a score for another 9? Nobody will do that.

DonM

pike51 Now if you play 9, they'll just make up a score for another 9?

Sort of. They are going to calculate the differential for your score, then add a standard differential for golfers of your ability for 9 holes. If you shoot a 41 with a differential of 5.9, it’s going to show your round as a 41, not 80 something. But the differential is going to be say 12.3, not 5.9. So 9 hole rounds will count as much toward your index as 18 hole rounds. That is how I read it.

garyt1957

DonM Sort of. They are going to calculate the differential for your score, then add a standard differential for golfers of your ability for 9 holes. If you shoot a 41 with a differential of 5.9, it’s going to show your round as a 41, not 80 something. But the differential is going to be say 12.3, not 5.9. So 9 hole rounds will count as much toward your index as 18 hole rounds. That is how I read it.

So do they take your 9 holes as your playing that day and extrapolate that to 18 or do they say, this guy is a ten so he'd likely score 42 on the back? In other words, I'm on fire and shoot 36 on the front (basically scratch let's say) do they figure I'll continue in that vein and give me another 36? Or do they say , he's a 10 so he'd likely shoot a 42 on the back for a 78 which would be like a 6 for the round?
I'm reading it that they will basically double your 9 hole differential? Yea, that's not good.

Typhoon

DonM Sort of. They are going to calculate the differential for your score,

Bottom line is you didn’t play the other 9.

How about we apply this to the NFL? Nobody plays the second half. The 2 teams just play the first half and then math decides the outcome of the second half. Wouldn’t the Super Bowl be great🙄

sdandrea1

I'm simply not going to post 9 hole rounds. I hardly play them anyway and if I do, it's practice with do overs and/or several balls and can't post it anyway.

Walterjn

sdandrea1 that is what I've been doing when I play my little executive course. I don't post scores there. I consider it practice, and will hit another ball.

DonM

sdandrea1 It’s a nothing burger. I don’t see any drawbacks from posting a nine hole round. It still reflects how you played. The part they are “adding” is neutral.

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