College football

bigshank · 2023-12-02T16:51:29+00:00

U of W first in. Who all you guys rooting for today? Bama fans here? Michigan looks legit. I haven’t watched any Georgia games this year but hoping for good...

azgreg

johnnydoom
Thanks brother. Just think, Arizona is just a couple seasons away from a 20 game losing streak.

Stu1961

Looks like Georgia will finish either #2 or #3 after the final polls. FSU 🏳️

rsvman2

Stu1961 FSU has virtually none of its players. Third-string QB, and missing 20 or 21 of its best players.

They deserve to get walloped because their players won't play the game, but Georgia is noy beating the Florida State team that a won those games in the regular season.

I think they should have just forfeited if they weren't going to take their actual team and play the game.

garyt1957

Stu1961 Looks like Georgia will finish either #2 or #3 after the final polls. FSU

I don't know. The win over FSU is meaningless. FSU had 16 players opt out. I believe they were down to their 3rd string QB. I would expect the team that loses the national championship game will finish 2nd if it's a close game. One of the other playoff teams is likely 3rd, not that it matters.

Par4QC

Stu1961 They will finish 5th.
Read the tea leaves again.

You are not going to bump out any top 4 team by beating Roosevelt Jr. High on a Sat. night!! Damn the score or stats!!

edit: may not even get 5th!! 😲

johnnydoom

rsvman2 Georgia is not beating the Florida State team that a won those games in the regular season.

They aren’t, but they would. The top 4 teams are very lucky Georgia isn’t in the mix.

garyt1957

rsvman2 I think they should have just forfeited if they weren't going to take their actual team and play the game.

They're not giving up $10 million

rsvman2

johnnydoom Probably true.

garyt1957

johnnydoom They aren’t, but they would. The top 4 teams are very lucky Georgia isn’t in the mix.

Agree, but they're not in the mix so it's unlikely they'll jump more than one team that is, barring some blow outs

professor

Announcement for all of us more seasoned sports fan. NCAA college football no longer exists as we once knew it. It is now a farm system for the NFL. I don't fault the players. If you were in their shoes and had an opportunity to make big bucks, playing a game, and you could help your family with financial support what would you do? The traditions are done. It's like Stanford playing in the Big Ten. It's over...

Eguller

professor NCAA college football no longer exists as we once knew it. It is now a farm system for the NFL.

Perhaps a percentage of their full scholarship would be appropriate. Oh...wait...the big Alum donors would step in. 🙄

Taki27

Typhoon I understand that the player doesn't want to take a chance they could get hurt, but if you are a scout, doesn’t a player bailing on their team count for something in your evaluation?

Par4QC

Taki27 but if you are a scout, doesn’t a player bailing on their team count for something in your evaluation?

With the portal transfers, and the opt outs being so widespread, it would hold no weight.
If anything, a scout may look at it as protecting his future team, more so.

garyt1957

Taki27 I understand that the player doesn't want to take a chance they could get hurt, but if you are a scout, doesn’t a player bailing on their team count for something in your evaluation?

Not likely. They understand it's a business decision.

Par4QC

Eguller the big Alum donors would step in.

I'm wondering what these people are doing/thinking, since all this 'portal' and 'NIL' came about.
I'd be locking the vault.

Par4QC

Typhoon How would it be if Penix gets to the championship game and says “ I’m not playing, I’m afraid I’ll get hurt”.

🤣Well, in the 1st place, that would be a hilarious statement, coming from him. And people would already know he's lyin' through his teeth.

The reason he will play it out is opposite from why other QBs are not playing bowl games. He has to prove that he is healthy!!
2 torn ACLs already. Plus missed most of another season with other injuries. Only been a good/healthy QB since going to WA in '22.

He knows his NFL time will be/may be/should be short, and most likely doesn't care a whole bunch if he makes it through the bowl games.
Smart kid. Take the fame & glory when you can grab on to it. (I'm sure he's already got plenty of money.)

Should not be a 1st round pick , jmo.

Typhoon

Par4QC I used Penix as an example because I happened to be watching ESPN.

But any of the top quarterbacks is what I meant. Any of the top QBs get to the National Championship and abandon their team because they’re afraid they’ll get hurt. I’d love to see that

Taki27

Par4QC You may be right, but I liken that to the oblivious guy who says “she cheated on her last boyfriends but won’t cheat on me.” It’s not like these guys are broke and awaiting a big payday. I think it was Caleb Williams who said he makes more off of his NIL than he will make off his entry level NFL contract.

rsvman2

Maybe they should make it so that if a player joins a team and takes NIL money, it is contingent on them playing any bowl game for which the team is eligible.

Seems like an easy fix.

Typhoon

rsvman2 Ya know, you see Williams just hanging around in the sidelines not dressed for the game. My thought is if they choose NOT to be game ready, I don’t want them on the sidelines with the TEAM. Go sit in the stands or stay home.

johnnydoom

rsvman2 I love the idea. I think the NCAA has a problem with linking the NIL money directly with performance and participation. Even though everyone knows that's exactly what it is, they don't want to hear "pay-to-play" being thrown about. They should just get over it and fix the problem. With the expanded playoffs the other bowl games will probably wither and drop off anyway though and it won't matter unless players start opting out of playoff games too.

Bravopilot

Typhoon Agreed, attending a bowl game is not free

azgreg

garyt1957

Par4QC Lovie took them there to the '07 SB.

That was the year the Colts beat them? That Chicago team may be the worst team to ever make a Super Bowl.

Par4QC

garyt1957 🤣👍

I was watching. That whole season.

DonM

garyt1957 That Chicago team may be the worst team to ever make a Super Bowl.

They were 15-3 until the Super Bowl, so they couldn’t have been that bad. The defense was great. Rex Grossman was a turnover machine though. I recall that the game was competitive through 3 quarters. The Colts offensive line was unbelievable. Manning got the MVP but the line deserved it.

garyt1957

Typhoon Wondering what you guys think of these QB’s etc… who are going to go high in the draft opting out of playing a bowl game?

I don't blame them. College football is a business now. The teams don't care about the players and the players don't owe the teams anything. Every man for himself. The rah, rah, days of playing for good ole "Name it" U are long gone and aren't coming back.

Eguller

garyt1957 I don't blame them. College football is a business now. The teams don't care about the players and the players don't owe the teams anything. Every man for himself. The rah, rah, days of playing for good ole "Name it" U are long gone and aren't coming back.

The next logical statement is that rivalries really don't mean much anymore. It's just the business end that counts....

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