Ping G430 10k

Typhoon · 2023-10-28T13:38:19+00:00

This sort of reminds me of when they released the g400 and then later on, the holy grail G400max. https://forums.golfwrx.com/topic/1961954-2024-ping-10k-driv...

Typhoon

Eguller Have you hit the Qi10 yet ? Interested in your take on its performance based on your poo pooing other
recent TM heads. 🤔

No, haven’t had one to hit yet. My poo pooing is mostly the way they look at address. Maybe it’s the ring around the crown, but it’s misshapen to me. At address it looked like I couldn’t go straight back. And the spin on the Plus model was too low. They were just hard to hit. All the reviewers looking back on the OG Stealth say it was their most unforgiving driver ever and the Stealth 2 was not much better.

The Qi10LS is supposed to be crazy low spin. If they called the Stealth Plus the Stealth LS, it would have explained a lot.

Eguller

Typhoon The Qi10LS is supposed to be crazy low spin.

Thanks for your thoughts. From early reviews, it appears that the basic model Qi10 may be the
sweet spot so to speak. As far as looks at address, that is Very individual. I can see your point.
I too prefer a fairly 'clean' unadorned look - simple and classy. YMMV.

MartinD

Typhoon All the reviewers looking back on the OG Stealth say it was their most unforgiving driver ever and the Stealth 2 was not much better.

That's saying something given the reputation for a lack of forgiveness that the SLDR had...

Eguller

@"Par4QC"#p350404 But, I'd bet TM clearly outsells them all every year. WTF??

Modern business models. There was a period not long ago where I saw a number of
PING epoxy failures (I fixed a number of them myself) - in the past it took an act of
congress to pull them apart or an emblem to come off. WTF indeed....

Typhoon

Eguller an emblem to come off. WTF indeed....

Oh God!! I remember a long time ago the backweight came off my TISI driver. I sent it in and they wanted to charge me because they said the glue failed because I reshafted it. I gave them crap, they still charged me. 2 weeks later I had to call back looking for my club. Apparently the dickhead I talked to decided to be a prick and had it beside his desk…” oh, I forgot to mail it out” he said. The next year the backweight on the TISI and the TISI Tec we’re riveted on🙄🙄

DonM

So what's the longest driver of the base (forgiving/GI) models out there?

My thinking is to pick up a Paradym this year. I had a fling with the Rogue ST Max. It was longer than my M4 but it was too draw biased so I returned it. Supposedly the Paradym is a helluva driver.

DC300

Typhoon so you’re saying, if you swing easier, it could benefit you as a fairway finder, but if you are a higher club head speed, it’s going to be a balloon machine? If so, that’s great news, I don’t want one 😂

Typhoon

DC300 That’s what it looks like and makes sense. There’s NO other reason the reviewers would try hitting the club at a slower speed and look at the results. It’s like the harder they swung the 10k and the standard model, the bigger the gap. No matter how hard you swing, it’ll be a fairway finder.

Now Colin Morikawa is using the qi10 max and his fellow pros are laughing at him for using an amateur club BUT… he’s not using an off the shelf retail model, he has hot melt in there and other tweaks.

What I would do with the TM because I love the symmetrical shape is try a lighter back weight . It’ll lessen MOI but that shape has moved weight around to make it more forgiving anyway. Not sure if you can change out the back weight in the Ping.

DC300

Typhoon call me nuts, but I’m not dropping $700 on a driver to mess around with it and try to make it LESS forgiving haha.

I’ve come to the realization, I don’t practice enough to use the drivers that are max distance machines and typically, the super forgiving ones spin too much, but the Ping 400 Max etc don’t seem so far off from the LS models that I couldn’t use it. I have the old G30LS and I flat out wanted something different so I got the Cally Epic Max LS and it started off good, but something is off with the balance of that one and I haven’t spent the time to figure it out, so I went back to the Ping. I want to find that happy middle of as forgiving as I can get, without struggling with too much spin and here’s the real killer, my miss is left, so it cannot have any draw Bias, which seems to kill a lot of the forgiving drivers out of the gate.

sdandrea1

Typhoon at higher swing speeds people create too much spin and the driver flies higher and shorter.

All my drivers go the same distance. Yes. I don't make higher swing speeds.

Typhoon

sdandrea1 I’m going through that now with my pro at indoor golf. HE wants more distance. He swings 98-100 mph. No matter what shaft, what head… he can “call it in the air.”

Steve, all your drivers though are basically the same loft, shaft and around the same age. You couldn’t buy anything easier to hit. Let’s see how that Paradym is against the wife’s Rhapsody!

MidwayJ

sdandrea1 All my drivers go the same distance. Yes. I don't make higher swing speeds.

You must hit consistently on the center of the face. My Ping G driver makes a louder sound and loses some distance if I strike it too far left or right of center. Funny thing is my playing partners sometimes think I "really killed it" because it was louder.

sdandrea1

Typhoon Let’s see how that Paradym is against the wife’s Rhapsody!

Probably go about the same distance.......😉
But the sound and feel is AWESOME 😎

Typhoon

DC300 You could always pick up a Ping 425 LST or 430LST. They have a movable weight to help with your left problem. Also get the 9 degree so when you go down in loft the face opens. I have a 9 degree 425 LST I haven’t even used yet🙄. The Pings always have a nice shape to me and finally the TM Qi10max does vs the rest of the Qi line

pike51

Par4QC

Time for you to turn in your GolfBuzz membership card. We don't need that kind of negativity around here.

Typhoon

And like I mentioned before, the old Ping g400 max was 9,900 MOI… only 100 short of 10k. The 430 max is 9000. So for Ping, 10k is not groundbreaking over their other drivers

sdandrea1

Typhoon 10k is not groundbreaking over their other drivers

I doubt any new driver head is going to be groundbreaking.

Eguller

sdandrea1 But the sound and feel is AWESOME 😎

I tried a Paradym when they first appeared and thought the opposite - like hitting a pillow with a wet towel. 🤔
May have been the shaft/combo - I'll have to go at it again next month when I go South. 🏌♂

Typhoon

sdandrea1 But the sound and feel is AWESOME 😎

That’s the carbon fiber. And feel comes from sound because the faces aren’t softer.

Par4QC

Rick Shiels is posting his PING G430 10K review tomorrow morning on FB/YT.

sdandrea1

Eguller like hitting a pillow with a wet towel. 🤔

I loved it. Different than any other Callaway.

Eguller

sdandrea1 I doubt any new driver head is going to be groundbreaking.

Yes, but we all keep trying for that perfect fit for our unique swing…….. and then, when found, move on to something new. 🙄🤣🏌️‍♂️

DonM

We need to encourage talking about golf equipment, including the new stuff. We don't need people saying that none of it matters. In the big picture of life and the cosmos, duh, no golf stuff matters. But that's not why we come together here.

Hopefully we can enjoy trying golf equipment and talking about it here without the negativity. That's really been bugging me over the past year or so here.

Typhoon

DonM We can talk about it, go to demo days and spend the day like I used to do hitting everything and then posting about each club. That was fun because you could really see the differences.

We can talk about them but especially here, nobody is buying anything new. It’s not exactly THP or WRX.

Guys here that say it doesn’t matter… partially right. A 60 mph swing speed hit on the sweet spot of any driver in the last 10 years will be the same. What you get now are more forgiving faces. Nobody seems to look at the toe and heel hits, only their “good ones”. If they did compare heel and toe hits on old vs. new drivers they would see that equipment matters. Now the whole face is a sweet spot… 10-12 years ago it wasn’t.

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