This burns my butt

Bigborgel · 2017-02-14T13:53:21+00:00

I try to stay away from politics, but this recent phenomena really burns my ass. Background- I'm an independent voter who generally votes Republican, but not...

inconsistent

Aw shit, there goes the neighborhood.

Typhoon

Release

When I lived in Orlando for a while Walt Disney World cast members got insane drink deals all over the place. I remember going to this place called Darryls and we got 4 for 1 drinks...and I had the Long Island Iced Teas lined up.

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Typhoon

Our vaca in Cabo last week was all-inclusive. Including adult beverages.

They lost money on that deal, and my wife didn't drink but one glass of wine for dinner the entire time there. I'm drying out this week. lol

Release

Typhoon

When we visited Orlando Daytona Beach in the 70`s. Red Hot Mama was the place I tempered.
Lots of people there.
Those were the days we could drink like a fish and stay UP all night.

Typhoon

PA-PLAYA
1. Laughing my ass off at how the posts in this thread go on totally different tangents...this is the best...keeping it sane.
2. All inclusive...we did one on our honeymoon. Like 2 kids in a candy store. Just kept ordering drinks, trying everything. Thank god we took pictures so we could rememeber it. Reminds me of the movie The Hangover, when they show the pictures at the end of the movie.

Sneakylong

ode

I believe Trump is a narcissist, megalomaniac, pathological liar, xenophobic and misogynist. Call it mental illness or personality disorders, but if the shoe fits etc.. Obama was all about no drama, where Trump thrives on chaos. He's obviously in way over his head.

But the more interesting thing is what his supporters think. From a recent Public Policy Poll.

40 percent of Trump voters insist that he won the national popular vote to 49 percent who grant that Clinton won it and 11 percent aren't sure.
73 percent of Trump voters think George Soros is paying protesters against Trump, with only 6 percent who think that's not true and 21 percent who aren't sure either way.
67 percent of Trump voters say that unemployment increased during the Obama administration, to only 20 percent who say it decreased.
Only 41 percent of Trump voters say that the stock market went up during the Obama administration; 39 percent say it went down and another 19 percent say they're not sure.

This is not surprising since Trump himself cites fake news as real news and his aide Kelly Ann Conway recently said they use 'alternative facts'.

New York Times (Republican) columnist David Brooks had a recent column titled How to Resist (It depends on the threat). Is it authoritarianism, corruption or incompetence?

Our 240 year old democratic experiment can only survive with an informed electorate. Fake news isn't new as W. Russell Neuman wrote. Stories about Elvis, UFO's, fake moon landing, 9/11 being secretly planned by the CIA have been around for years.

What is new is the culture of political polarization that energizes and glorifies the rumor mills. When you have a president who believes things he reads on the internet like 3-5 million illegals voted for Hillary, or Ted Cruz's father was involved in the Kennedy assassination, or 1000's of people in New Jersey cheered after 9/11, or that Obama was some sort of Kenyan Manchurian candidate and propagated the birther movement, then we're dangerously close to our little experiment going seriously off course.

PA-PLAYA

Typhoon

Our week in Cabo was very reasonable money-wise. Airfare cost a grand, round-trip. The resort was a timeshare deal from a guy at my club... he owns three weeks there, beautiful luxury resort, Villa del Arco. Right on the beach of the Sea of Cortez. Last spring I purchased a week from him for a grand (usually runs $350/night) and used it as his guest. Then we did the all-inclusive for both food and drink, which ran $1350. Then throw in another $500-$700 for miscellaneous expenses, sightseeing, activities, etc. So all-inclusive, taxi rides into town, the occasional souvenir, etc.. we did it on roughly $4k.

There've been weeks spent in Myrtle Beach with the kids back in the day when we couldn't get out of there for under $2500... throw in my golf - we're talking $3000 easily.

This place at the resort there, they have this bar that opens at 10:00 a.m. each morning, right next to the ocean. I spent a lot of mornings, afternoons and evenings there just taking it all in, enjoying the splendor of such a beautiful place. The bartenders, each of them, knew what I was drinking. They'd suggest something different on occasion, I'd try it... we shared some Tequila shots together our last day, just me and the bartenders. They were so cool... of course, I tipped them pretty good too. Who says you can't buy friends! LOL... "Hey ese, gringo with mucho dinero alerto! Titos and Tonic, splash of cranberry coming up, bro!"

For seven blessed days, no politics... no hate... just mucho dias buenos with a beautiful woman. 😉

We did a Sunset Cruise, with Fajitas, and all the alcohol you could possibly drink in 2 hours. I took this video below.

#mostfunever

Sneakylong

In reply to the original post. The majority of entertainers / Hollywood lean left as evidenced by the lack of A list celebrities performing at Trump's inaugural. So chances are if you go to a show the performers are on the left side of the political spectrum. Trump insulted / offended a lot of people in his campaign, so there's a lot of resistance.

So unless you go and see a live show from someone like a Jon Voight (right winger) you're most likely to run the risk of getting lectured on Hollywood's dissatisfaction with Trump. I thought Meryl Streep's speech at the Golden Globes about how much she was offended by Trump making fun of a reporter with disabilities was fantastic myself.

People say they're in favor of free speech, the right to protest etc., but only if they agree with what's being said. If I were at a show and got that upset at what was being said, I get up and leave. But again odds are I'd be in agreement with what was being said. (insert smiley face here)

kenner

Sneakylong
Thanks, Sneaky, for making me realize what the "A" in A list stands for.

A lot of things need fixing in this country. This election represented a sea change. Politics as usual has taken us into a deep chasm, and we need to climb out ASAP. Like it/him or not, Trump personifies "Git 'er done." More power to him.

Sneakylong

kenner

If authoritarianism, corruption, incompetence and self delusion are what you want in a president then he's your guy. It's obvious he inhabits an alternate reality. Just today in his press conference with Bibi Netanyahu. he was asked by a reporter from Israel about his xenophobic, bigoted rhetoric during his campaign and how anti Semitism and incidents of bigotry have been on the rise since.

His answer was nothing short of bizarre. He started talking about how many electoral votes he won by. Strange, very strange. It's been an exhausting and chaotic first 3 weeks of his administration. Three weeks seems like three years. It'll be a good test of our democracy if we can survive four years of this.

LBlack14

pellmell

Southern Baptist, once saved, always saved. Big time flaw in itself.

Par4QC

Sneakylong It's been an exhausting and chaotic first 3 weeks of his administration. Three weeks seems like three years. It'll be a good test of our democracy if we can survive four years of this.

And exactly who has made it chaotic? You, me, Landon, the press, TV reporters, the idiotic protesters......every damn one of us. Regardless of who we voted for. No one will STFU.....everyone has something to say about what he is saying, which he should not be saying, but IS, because all of us are saying things we don't know shit about, true or untrue, fake or real!!! Everyone, needs to step back, shut the fuck up, and just watch, mouths closed, ears/eyes open. As if in school. Let the teacher show us what he knows and what he can do.

WE....are flunking all tests, so far. Not The President; he is only showing he has no control over his classroom, which is our fault what with all the mouthing off and disobedience!

If we do not let this President preside, mark my words, we will soon be more sorry than at any time in history. The U.S. has never been attacked, but it will be. And who's fault will it be when it happens?????

LBlack14

Sneakylong

And I feel all the shit you think he is, he is not, nor is he a yes man, pussy like you and the rest of the liberals want him to be. I'm thankful for that.

Sneakylong

Par4QC

You're describing how one acts under authoritarianism. Going by the PPP poll my guess is there's a lot of Trump voters who couldn't tell you the difference between authoritarianism and democracy. The people speaking up know the difference and the one's that don't are telling the one's that do to shut up. Kinda says it all.

Daddy says he and he alone can fix everything. No details, no policy, just "believe me." The fact that he's about an inch deep on knowledge on most things isn't important. Take a look at history and see what happens when people give up their right to speak up and follow along blindly.

And people wonder why he admires Putin so much.

Are you sure we've never been attacked? Might want to check that one again.

LBlack14

Sneakylong

You're about 1 second away from calling me names aren't you? Look, I don't know you personally and we do have golf in common, but I don't understand, for one second, the thought process of most liberals when it comes to this and other things of this nature. Y'all like to twist and make up stuff and that's a fact proven by most of the stuff you've stated.

Sneakylong

LBlack14

You do know that Trump knew that Flynn lied to Pence and allowed him to go out and lie on TV, don't you? That would mean if the phone call proving Flynn talked about the sanctions to the Russian ambassador was never leaked, Trump would've kept Pence in the dark and allowed the lie to live on. I don't know how Pence can trust Trump. Just the latest example of Trump lying.

Trump believes if he says it it's true. He's been able to get away with it in the past, but that's coming to an end as we're seeing now. Just curious, but as a Trump voter how would you have answered the PPP poll questions?

I play golf with several right wingers. It's like we live on different planets, but we all do have golf in common as you said.

LBlack14

Oh and your polls....well you know.

LBlack14

Sneakylong I thought lying was part of the job? Seems to have been a must from looking at past Presidents. I prefer to have the Russians with us, not against us.

Sneakylong

LBlack14

Putin's not a good guy. And what the Russians did in interfering in our election cuts to the heart of our democracy. It was the Democrats this time, but it could be the Republicans next time. And whether Trumps people were complicit or just duped it was an attack on our democracy. This is a huge deal. As big as it gets. Think about it for a second.

And yes presidents lie, but not to the extent that Trump has. He's taken it to a whole new art form. He's really out there.

LBlack14

Interfering? Doesn't matter what they/dems got caught doing right? Gotta blame it on somebody and Russia's handy. Laughable.

Sneakylong

LBlack14

False equivalency is always the answer. This is something we've never seen before. It is an undisputed fact that Russia was behind the hacking. Imagine if this were Hillary the Republicans would be going nuts over this.

Oh, did you see Trump today condemning the leak about Flynn. Seemed to have a change of heart. Wasn't that long ago that he was praising Wikileaks for the Democratic hacked emails being released. Said he "loved Wikileaks."

Again, we're in for one hell of a show for the next 4 years. If it lasts that long.

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