Walterjn Did you ever read The Secrets In The Pantaloons thread on WRX before they cleaned it up? I think it was in the Hogan instructional thread, and it started with pics of Hogan and the pleated pants that came up to his ribcage, and it devolved into a discussion of transgender Thai caddies, helped along by one helpful forum member who lived there and added pictures. They took out a number of posts and all of the pics are gone, so it ain't what it used to was, but what the hell is? (As Dizzy Dean supposedly said.)