Super League Predictions
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That's the first time I've heard him say that the PGA Tour can't compete money wise. It's obvious, but he acknowledged it publicly. I think he's being proactive to the threat.
We've hashed over to death all the geopolitical / morality stuff. Now it's just a chess game with one side having the upper hand money wise and the other having the better competition model / prestige / legacy etc..
As long as LIV remains mostly a high paid exhibition tour, then the PGA Tour's model will continue to have the upper hand. That could all change down the road, but for now I think Monahan is doing just what he needs to do in reacting to the threat.
Sneakylong That could all change down the road, but for now I think Monahan is doing just what he needs to do in reacting to the threat.
Except talking........I think the high road in this situation would be to just press on and operate the Tour. Defending it makes him look threatened. IMO.
Sneakylong a high paid exhibition tour,
And nothing wrong, if that is what it actually turns out to be. To think about it, it's needed. A 'between' so to speak, PGA Tour and Champions Tour. They still got game, but c'mon, anyone that thinks someone like Phil is more than just a name, does not watch golf. He's got name, not a lot of game. Not 4 rounds, maybe not even 3. A lot of the others, the same way. Haven't had 4 rounds in them for years. Yet, too young to quit, or for Champions Tour. This is their chance to keep going.
The PGA should embrace this thing, not fight it. Guys are not going to jump back/forth, except for the big tourneys/Majors, on the PGA Tour. Look at the money they could have kept 'in reserves', 
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Oh, I forgot about the 'morals' though. 
I wouldn't shy away from talking about how the PGA Tour's model is superior to LIV's. I think any business faced with an existential threat with bottomless billions to spend, you have to hype your advantages.
LIV isn't the USFL or World Hockey Assn. or a Saudi prince owning a Kentucky Derby winner. Again, the PGA Tour as of now has the upper hand. But if LIV is here to stay then they can afford to make mistakes and keep on going.
Because if it ever comes to be just about money, then LIV can crush the PGA Tour.
Par4QC To think about it, it's needed.
Looks to me like the PGA has adopted a government type solution.
Throw money at it, with no thought behind it.
Looking at the events, it seems what they have done, for the most part, is increase purses at events that are limited to the Top Tier players on the tour. At this rate, maybe all the journeymen grinder players will want to jump to the LIV and leave the PGA with the 15 or less events these top guys play now. Then which tour is the exhibition?
Spuzz Yeah, did not understand the reasoning to the 70 limit. But, if I read it correctly, they are supposed to come out with 8 more 'lesser' tournaments that run the same days as the $20M tourneys. Only problem with that is they will only be getting about $1M(maybe less) for wins, and very little down the line. In reality, only a small handful of those lower than 70 are going to make any advancement upward. There will be even more falling back to the Korn Ferry than ever before. Plus, even with a win, their rankings will go hardly anywhere. Not a good plan.
Suddenly, the American PGA Tour now finds itself dealing with an issue that the European PGA Tour has been dealing with for years, BECAUSE of the American PGA Tour.
So has the LIV Tour succeeded in generating the Pay equity PM was trying to leverage for the PGA Tour players? Government approach or not, did it work, albeit, for only the top 50 players? If so…
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Interesting comments by Paddy Harrington regarding his concern about the DP World Tour. And Rory commenting on the "duplictious" behavior of the ones who have taken the Saudi cash. And how he'd like to see an even closer alliance with the DP World Tour.
"Pádraig Harrington admits he’s massively worried about the future of the DP World Tour as events are set to endure a serious world ranking downgrade next month.
It's devastating, and it's not getting talked about with all that's going on, Harrington said of the new system which will see European events received far few world ranking points.
Really I'm distraught about it. For the young guys coming up I just don't see the pathway anymore to get into the top 100, which is what you've got to do."
"Speaking ahead of the Travelers Championship in Connecticut, McIlroy said he has been surprised by the "duplicitous" behaviour of some of the golfers who have taken the Saudi cash.
Am I surprised? Yes, because of what he said previously,” he said of Koepka. I think that's why I'm surprised at a lot of these guys because they say one thing and then they do another, and I don't understand that and I don't know if that's for legal reasons or if they can't - I have no idea.
But it's pretty duplicitous on their part to say one thing and then do another thing…the whole way through, in public and private, all of it.”
As for the Strategic Alliance between the PGA Tour and the DP World Tour, McIlroy wants to see even more co-operation in the face of the LIV Golf threat.
I've always advocated for something where the tours work more closely together or we create some sort of world tour model or ATP model,” he said. Where there's different events going on in different areas of the world, but they're all governed under one umbrella.
I would like to see the PGA Tour and the European Tour start to work more closely together and maybe try to forge a path to where all the biggest golf events in the world are under the same umbrella”
Sneakylong While not necessarily an excuse, the duplicitous behavior is pretty easily understood by most that don't work in an environment like the top level of the PGA tour. It is generally for negotiating purposes. When asked whether or not you'd be interested in going to work for someone else, the best reply is generally going to be something along the lines of "I'm very content with what I'm doing now". That lets the other party know that they will need to provide a very high incentive if they wish to lure you away from your current employer.
Most people don't have to negotiate in public, but for high profile sports figures almost everything is public and the PGA Tour made it more so by trying to pre-emptively and publicly shame players to discourage defections. The PGA Tour (and Rory) is almost certainly engaging in the same duplicity as their purpose is to retain as many high profile players as they can to keep the sponsorship and fan based money coming in, not for some high-minded geo-political cause. The sponsors they accept money from aren't refusing to do business in Saudi Arabia,
Yeah, could be. But from what I've heard Dustin Johnson is dumber than a box of rocks. Hard to believe he's smart enough to use leverage. In his case it was probably just duplicitous. lol
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DJ is probably getting lots of advice from his not "so dumb as a rock" father-in-law, Wayne Gretzky, about his future in golf and money making abilities.
raggmann54 DJ is probably getting lots of advice from his not "so dumb as a rock" father-in-law, Wayne Gretzky, about his future in golf and money making abilities.
Of course he is.
He made more in endorsements that salary (50-46 mil) and his net worth approx 250+ mil now. (google search)
Not bad.
Sneakylong As for the Strategic Alliance between the PGA Tour and the DP World Tour, McIlroy wants to see even more co-operation in the face of the LIV Golf threat.
Good luck with that.
This latest attempt to keep players from jumping ship is a "save their own ass first" solution foremost.
DP Tour, LIV tour be damned!
IMO, Rory should STFU and play golf.
I think more Buzzers have more awareness of what's going on than he does, sadly.
