Par4QC So, what 'people' may do on their own, should never be a reflection of the country they rep, or go in to. Many, even from this forum, go in to countries that are suspect of heinous things.

Is Berhard Langer still playing on the Champions Tour?
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    Par4QC So, what 'people' may do on their own, should never be a reflection of the country they rep, or go in to. Many, even from this forum, go in to countries that are suspect of heinous things.

    Rex would be banned from Golfbuzz if some of his heinous activities came to light!๐Ÿคฃ

      LIV golf is currently on local free TV from Hamilton Ontario (CHCH)
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      Today I was able to find the actual LIV Golf feed on YouTube.
      How come so few guys are under par?

        Team Stinger kicking butt and taking names. Their players are currently first, second, third, and 11th.

        For some inexplicable reason, there has been a vaguely jazzy song playing in the background through the entire broadcast. Weird.

        They just put the camera on Oosthuizen off course, and the announcer says 'there's Branden Grace, currently in second place.... 'LOL

        azgreg I hope he goes shopping now. For pants that fit.
        'High water' pants went out long ago. and were only an 'accident' to begin with; not something deliberately worn.

          Sneakylong The former would be true if Elon Musk decided to start his own Golf Tour and compete with the PGA Tour. I would suspect the PGA Tour would react the same way.

          Of course they would have. The "morality" issue is a smokescreen. The PGA had no problem issuing releases to play in the Saudi Invitational or their Pro-Am in the past (or other ME sites with questionable human rights reps). Their moral compass only became engaged when confronted by a competing league.

          There may appear to be two issues at play here ... but I think that's only from an outsiders perspective (cultivated by PGA controlled, or dependent, media - aka "stooges" ๐Ÿ˜œ).

          For the players jumping ship - yes, of course, it's all about the money (99.82%). But that was true for them when they joined the PGA as well. Were they all sellouts then, too, for not pursuing golf history as an amateur? Or staying on the Euro/Asian/whatever tour? I have no problem with their chasing money ... nor should the PGA, as that is behind their position/decision too.

          I kind of wish, for curiosity alone, there were more names, and bigger names, than the 17 suspended - to weaken the PGA's stranglehold as the preeminent tour. Maybe that will happen eventually? But, IMO, nothing will change until then. The number and quality of player's they've lost so far are the equivalent of blowing the head off a mug of beer. ๐Ÿบ

          DonM I think the Euro tour is really in a tough spot. They already seemed to be fading. They canโ€™t afford to lose good players. So this new tour could hurt them badly. They almost have to allow the players to stay or join up, for their own survival.

          I donโ€™t know what degree of solidarity they have with the PGA Tour.

          Seems they could steal the PGA Tour's thunder by allowing players to come and go. All the LIV players would then play on the Euro Tour to qualify for majors and even more PGA guys would jump for sure. The PGA Tour would be in dire straits.

          Spuzz Working together to try and keep their members/employees happy and not suspending them because they took a my way or the highway approach. They even adjusted the rules to allow it (less required DP Events for eg.)

          The only reason they did that is all their decent players would have jumped to the US tour where the money and prestige is. They didn't do it out of any caring for their players.

            Par4QC They are back, and deliberately this time. Sorry to be the one to break the bad news.

              Spuzz Assuming that the "names" on that the banned list were intending to play, how does banning them help the Champions Tour, which is crying for "names" to spice up that tour?
              The answer is, obviously, it does not help.

              Ain't that the truth, the only time I bothered to watch a CT event was when Phil played in a couple when he turned 50. You talk about a Tour of nobodies? The big names make too much money now to need to play on the CT

              Par4QC Keeping in mind, the players there really do not much like Americans. It's why you never see some of them come over. They have some very big names/multiple winners, that won't cross the ocean, even for the money here. I think that will play into any decisions as to letting these guys join up.

              I really doubt dislike for Americans is why they're not coming over. Name me one DP Tour player who could move the needle that isn't playing here already. The ones who don't probably don't want to uproot their families. And may feel they can't contend.

              DP World Tour Race to Dubai (06.06.2022)
              #
              NAME
              NATIONALITY
              POINTS
              TOURNAMENTS
              1.
              McIlroy Rory
              Northern Ireland
              1979,1
              4
              2.
              Hovland Viktor
              Norway
              1953,2
              5
              3.
              Thomas Justin
              USA
              1946,3
              3
              4.
              Zalatoris Will
              USA
              1702,8
              3
              5.
              Pieters Thomas
              Belgium
              1645,2
              7
              6.
              Fox Ryan
              New Zealand
              1299,4
              10
              7.
              Larrazabal Pablo
              Spain
              1183,2
              10
              8.
              Bland Richard
              England
              1060,7
              9
              9.
              Meronk Adrian
              Poland
              972,8
              12
              10.
              Arnaus Adria
              Spain
              970,5
              11
              11.
              Smith Jordan
              +2
              England
              932,5
              11
              12.
              Lowry Shane
              -1
              Ireland
              911,6
              5
              13.
              Horsfield Sam
              -1
              England
              906,3
              5
              14.
              Hatton Tyrrell
              England
              839,8
              5
              15.
              Bekker Oliver
              South Africa
              819,5
              14
              16.
              Wu Ashun
              China
              808,6
              13
              17.
              Sharma Shubhankar
              India
              796,5
              10
              18.
              Perez Victor
              +6
              France
              787,6
              8
              19.
              Olesen Thorbjorn
              -1
              Denmark
              787,3
              10
              20.
              Cabrera-Bello Rafa
              -1
              Spain
              740,2
              6
              21.
              Fleetwood Tommy
              +1
              England
              740,0
              6
              22.
              Lawrence Thriston
              -1
              South Africa
              733,2
              14
              23.
              Morikawa Collin
              -3
              USA
              713,8
              5
              24.
              Otaegui Adrian
              -1
              Spain
              689,1
              12
              25.
              Samooja Kalle
              +61
              Finland
              682,9
              12
              26.
              Ferguson Ewen
              -1
              Scotland
              627,4
              12
              27.
              Long Hurly
              Germany
              609,7
              13
              28.
              Harding Justin
              -2
              South Africa
              600,2
              10
              29.
              Fitzpatrick Matthew
              -1
              England
              581,7
              3
              30.
              Soderberg Sebastian
              -1
              Sweden
              579,4
              12
              31.
              Hanna Chase
              -1
              USA
              565,9
              14
              32.
              Power Seamus
              -1
              Ireland
              555,3
              3
              33.
              Fisher Ross
              -1
              England
              540,5
              13
              34.
              Norris Shaun
              -1
              South Africa
              516,0
              6
              35.
              Hojgaard Nicolai
              -1
              Denmark
              505,6
              10
              36.
              Scott Adam
              -1
              Australia
              503,8
              5
              37.
              Paul Yannik
              +1
              Germany
              474,8
              13
              38.
              Besseling Wil
              +66
              Netherlands
              474,6
              13
              39.
              Ancer Abraham
              -3
              Mexico
              459,3
              3
              40.
              du Plessis Hennie
              -3
              South Africa

              DonM Today I was able to find the actual LIV Golf feed on YouTube.
              How come so few guys are under par?

              Weather was really bad the first two days as I understand it.

              rsvman2 They are back, and deliberately this time. Sorry to be the one to break the bad news.

              Yep, they've been the trend for awhile now