Very interesting Peyton Manning article
Sorry about that ghost reply above but I agree with sdandrea1. It seems that the media loves to build someone up as superhuman and almost godlike, to a point that no man/woman can possibly live up to it and then look for]= -some reason to tear them down. Not really fair but I guess it sells papers, creates good ratings, etc.
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Manning's name is being brought up again because of a current lawsuit involving sexual assaults at Tennessee.
Peyton originally settled with the woman trainer Jamie Ann Naughright, but was sued again a few years later when he defamed her in his book.
The original accusation was he put his genitals and rectum on the woman trainers face while she was treating him. As his defense he said he was mooning another person, but that person denied his account.
This isn't about his drinking age or some other boys will be boys bullshit that some are using to excuse his behavior. He sat naked on a woman trainers face while she was treating him.
Teabagging this woman trainer by Manning was covered back then. USA Today's Christine Brennan covered it in an article on how well do we know our athletes. Then it basically went away. Now it's back in the news because of the lawsuit against Tennessee.
Well,I don't know about you, other than your well written post, but I read the story and, quite frankly, it wasn't the
normal behaviour of anyone" 21 year old jock " or not.The fact that Manning and his father chose to have a book
published years later, in contravention of the agreement, smearing and telling lies about the woman that Manning had previously assaulted speaks very poorly about his character.He's obviously had a dream run with the media and the public and his fans (you included ?) won't hear a word against him.
Fellas, believe what you want to believe. It's your prerogative. This story clearly represents what is wrong with society today - that some can't possibly enjoy a level of success without someone else with an ulterior motive searching endlessly through a closet that extends all the way back to the last century... to degrade and downplay his success all these years later. You might as well subpoena his elementary school teachers and make an informal query about his life not much after he was weened from his mother's teet, for Christ's sake.
The rest of us will look at this as what it most likely is... And if I need to explain that further, then there's really no reason to continue debating this.
The facts stand: this basically "allegedly" happened 20 years ago.
The case was riddled with here-say and he-said, she-said.
The "plaintiff" settled, undoubtedly because she was encouraged to do so by an attorney who understood the difficult nature of achieving a successful prosecution based on evidence, which is was the Gold standard then, and the Gold standard still today.
And 20 years later, this non story of a story pathetically finds itself in the headlines, not even a week after the biggest moment of the "alleged" perpetrator's career. Why? Because this same woman is named in a lawsuit, once again, 20-years after the fact for seeking additional compensatory damages for something that most likely couldn't have been proven the first time around 20 years ago.
The real shame here in all of this is that stories like this do a TREMENDOUS disservice to the real cases that exist... the real women who are exploited, the real victims, who aren't looking for lucrative "settlements" but for real justice.
This $hit almost meets the modern-day standard of extortion.
So spare me the political correctness, all the hoopla, all of the sensationalism. It's not going to change my perspective of what is obviously happening here.
It is as plain as day.
But you guys continue to have fun with this at your disposal. Like I said - it's your prerogative. My mind was made up based on the timing of all this alone, and I'm not gonna change my opinion.
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That says it - thanks PaPlaya.
This is not newsworthy to me. Our society used to have some sense of respect and decency for the lives of others. Now certain people will attack those with lots of money looking for a free pay day. It's all about, greed and how much money can be extorted from celebrities.
We all make mistakes in life. I know I wouldn't want someone to examine some of my questionable behavior when I was in my 20's and stupid. Let's bury this one and move along.
PIGDivot It's quite obviously "newsworthy" and the fact that you (or I for that matter ) may have behaved poorly in our 20's has no bearing on the relevance of Manning's alleged behaviour.Unless, of course, you've managed to make 10's of millions of dollars based, in part, on your "whiter than white" reputation.I can only assume that Manning normally plays much better than he did in your Super Bowl 2016, btw :-) .
Here is an article with a more complete timeline and without an obvious agenda against Manning. It appears she may have changed her story in 2002. Her affidavit from 1996 made no mention of
physical contact.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/14/peyton-manning-lawsuit-sexual-harassment-documents-tennessee
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MidwayJ This story clearly represents what is wrong with society today - that some can't possibly enjoy a level of success without someone else with an ulterior motive searching endlessly through a closet that extends all the way back to the last century... to degrade and downplay his success all these years later.
Easily. I was responding to this from PA Playa:
This story clearly represents what is wrong with society today - that some can't possibly enjoy a level of success without someone else with an ulterior motive searching endlessly through a closet that extends all the way back to the last century... to degrade and downplay his success all these years later.
---Has not Bill Cosby and Darren Sharper been "downgraded" years later after women came forward well after the events took place? Whether 1 or 100, I was referring to time lapse. As to reputation, time lapse is irrelevant. If Bill Cosby raped women 40 years ago, he's still a rapist today regardless of those who want to point to how long ago it was.
If Peyton put his genitals on a woman's head/face against her will when she was trying to perform work duties for UT that's horrific whether it was yesterday or 20 years ago. Time lapse does nothing to soften the horrific nature of the event.
Oh, PA did refer to "ulterior" motives. He has no idea whether they are ulterior or not but has judged the motive in this case as ulterior. The same exact thing could be said of Bill Cosby by a Bill Cosby supporter.
Opportunism at its finest. Save the trump card, folks. Sooner or later - it will reap dividends. Even if the claims are contested, inconsistent and therefore ruled unfounded.
And I have no idea how Bill Cosby entered into the discussion. Used to be somewhat of a fan, but not any longer. The difference, you ask? A history of wrongdoing. When he wasn't still a kid in school, at that.
Yes, in my wold there is a difference. For those that can't or refuse to discern - you have my pity.
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PA-PLAYA Yes, in my wold there is a difference. For those that can't or refuse to discern - you have my pity.
My sentiments exactly. There are certain folks that go out of their way to pick a fight where none exists. It's almost like they don't have any drama or excitement in their boring little lives, so they opt to live vicariously through others failures, shortcomings, and stupidity. I guess it gives them a false sense of superiority in thinking themselves above the fray of human failure and sin.
You're acting like Peyton Manning was 15 or 16. He was a high profile student athlete at a well known university. If Bill Cosby committed all of his alleged rapes at the same university and same age as Peyton was when this alleged incident happened it changes nothing. It sounds like reverse age discrimination to me and begs the question...What on earth did you do when you were his age?
Ironically, we don't know whether Peyton did what he was alleged to have done nor Bill Cosby but you have chose to free pass Peyton while ending your fandom for Cosby? Why? It has to be more than you think Peyton wasn't an adult and therefore not responsible while Cosby was a responsible adult.
I have no problem with people's insatiable desire for dirty laundry IF the person whose dirty laundry it is is a high profile person who accepts a ton of public pedestalization and presents an image of wholesomeness. I think Peyton qualifies here so bringing up something that was ALREADY public isn't dredging up anything. It was already out there 20 years ago. If he did it, sadly, he's getting away with it as to public opinion, again, because he could throw a football well. I think that's a bigger evil than the insatiable desire to dig up dirty laundry.
Personally, I enjoy Peyton Manning on the field playing football. Off the field I have no interest. That goes for Tiger, Cosby, or whoever. Why do we think a pro athlete deserves attention or press outside of his game? The smart ones know better than to trust their own judgment off the field. So they surround themselves with coaches, trainers, financial advisers, agents, etc. I sure in the world don't pay attention to the dumb ones that will burn through millions of dollars on drugs, parties, etc. What are their qualifications in other areas of opinion, politics, etc.?
Pa-Playa, thank you for coming back. You are a voice of reason.