I told the story of Brian at Monarch Dunes just this past weekend. Par 5, hole 6 (before they flipped the 9's), hits it right and onto the side of the hill which is like, 18" tall, thick, grass. Found the ball sitting up, his feet were quite a bit below the ball. Took a swing and missed. Frustration hit and he took another swing and made good contact and then hurled the 5-iron helecopter style toward the green (at least it was the direction he was going still) and it landed on the cart path and bounced. He retrieved it and when we got up to the green, his ball was tap-in distance for birdie.