azgreg I'm laughing. I have a set that I've been going to get refinished. A few years back my grandson had to use them for a few rounds. They had various shafts, stiff steel, some had graphite, mismatched grips, standard and osize. as I was just trying to complete the head set. He knocked the daylights out of those things! Played them just as good as he was his TM RBladez. Could not believe the distances he was hitting them.