I'll echo the above. The Pings are great, but for value price you probably need to look at G25, G30 or G. The G400 is better, but the prices are still holding. I know most didn't, but I though both TM M2 drivers performed well. The Cally Rogue is a great head for the current used pricing. Very forgiving, but the feel/sound is not good IMO. Given the pricing I'd probably go for the Rogue.