Well, used these wedges today with Taylormade Project A balls and wow! My playing partners were saying “holy shit” all day, lol. When chipping, if you clip a ball just right, these things just flat stop. Had one 70 yard shot that spun back 10 feet. Balls weren’t shredded, looked fine. This grind works great for me too, I love it. The feel is nice, hell, what’s not to love about these wedges other than the price?