garyt1957 I think I may have posted something along these lines on FGI last time I checked out Bang's website. How are these guys staying in business? They're selling the Super Bangomatic for $269 head only! My first ever component head some 20 years ago was the Big bang 450. They still sell that for $139 head only. The original BOM is $199. Can they really sell many heads at this price?