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I don't tuck either. Never wore women's panties.
Fowler Shirt Tails
I wonder if he got a talkin' too today,had a regular PGA issue polo shirt on?
Bravo Ricky! Let them all wear them and shorts. PGA needs to update its code and let players be more comfortable.
Y'all might want to take a few minutes to picture in your mind some of the styles you are advocating. For instance senior pga players in shorts, know by kneed, lacking color except for some of the brushing seen from meds.
Not sure sponsors really want that image advertising their products.
Rules and discipline add to a professional image imo. Most golf courses have relaxed the rules for the amateur golfer, and that probably has made golf a bit more accessible (
). I don't see relaxing rules on professional fashions doing anything but reducing sponsors money into the game and the respect for the game.
I like the untucked look. I usually become untucked in the back anyway (all business in the front, party in the back) because I'm round shouldered and have a longer torso. However, when I do go untucked I get comments from the fashion police. Like you look like a bowler etc..
If it wasnât for this thread, I wouldnât have ever known. I watched a couple of hours and, except for the pattern, never even noticed his shirt. I generally think he looks like someone desperately wanting attention, but I didnât even notice the untucked part.
Then I guess the overriding question would be this:
Is golf better off catering to the older, aging crowd, whose years of being active in playing the sport and watching on tv are limited, or should they be trying to appeal to the younger generation of players and potential would-be golfers who are ultimately being relied upon to carry on the interest of the sport and tv viewership when guys like you and me are no longer playing/watching?
There's definitely a generational gap here that has to be figured out. And for what it's worth, there are just as many 20-somethings needing car/home insurance, or financial needs, or whatever, as there are older viewers who might find that "image" unacceptable.
Who should they appeal to? Only those of us who might need Cialis?
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I found this on the PGA Tour website FAQ's:
Does the PGA TOUR have a dress code or appearance standard?
The PGA TOUR Playerâs policy states that, âplayers shall present a neat appearance in both clothing and personal grooming. Clothing worn by players shall be consistent with currently accepted golf fashion.â Golf attire and fashion is always changing and evolving. T-shirts, jeans, or shorts (for players) are considered inappropriate. Our officials monitor player appearance for violations while allowing players to express their own personal styles.
This was posted in Golfweek:
PGA Tour Dress Code
The PGA Tour Handbook states: âPlayers shall present a neat appearance in both clothing and personal grooming. Clothing worn by players shall be consistent with currently accepted golf fashion. The tournament director shall interpret this regulation subject to the approval of the commissioner.â In other words, each tournament director may interpret the PGA Tourâs guidelines, although the Tourâs commissioner may have the final say.
This reminds me of back when Tiger started wearing nicer t-shirts instead of collard shirts. At first there was outrage but soon others started wearing them and before long you didn't even notice it any more. Is Ricky popular enough to get others to follow and get the "powers that be" to allow more of it?
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I think the industry as a whole either needs to get with the times or quit bitching about why golf isn't popular and interesting to the younger generation.
That's what I think.
If you expect the millennials to embrace the sport, then you need to make the needed generational adjustments needed.
The "old rich white man's stuffy, restrictive standards" will strangle the lifeline of interest and support to the sport. Again, I ask the question: what becomes of the sport once the older generation of players/viewers/enthusiasts have been exhausted?
All of the other mainstream sports have made that adjustment. So why is it that golf seems so hesitant to embrace the current reality?
Traditions be damned... it's almost akin to the skipper of the Titanic who refuses to acknowledge that his ship is sinking after hitting the iceberg.... bands are playing, the older folks are dancing, while the ship itself is sinking.
PA-PLAYA - The NFL has made changes (individual expression is verboten except during the National Anthem, protect the players - especially quarterbacks- from injuries, less kick-off returns, etc. and how's that working out today? Answer: It is now referenced as the NO FUN LEAGUE, viewership dropped 8% last year and 10% on top of that this year. And, I agree with most of the changes.
Baseball made changes many years ago and the traditionalists in the N.L. kept their pitchers hitting and the progressives in the A.L. brought in the designated hitter. Rumors are flying (pun intended) the balls are juiced again. Was this a behind the curtain move to make the game interesting because of the perception the low scoring games were boring and the millenials like the long ball? If true, was it done to keep the attendance and television ratings up?
Changes ARE needed in golf. Golf is still big enough to cater to the traditionalists and the casual player. The purists can still play by the rules, post their scores, and play in accredited/sanctioned competititions. Let the fun seekers play with non-conforming equipment and a rule book reduced to 4 pages with color illustrations (2 pages without the pictures including 1 1/2 pages on etiquette 
).
I agree whole heartedly golf is a dying sport unless changes are made. But, golf survived its infancy the first half of the last century when it was considered an elitist sport. It evolved then and will do so in the future when change is allowed by the governing bodies. I just don't see frisbees and kick-ball golf or 6+ inch holes as being the answer.
Where did I mention frisbees and kick-ball golf being the answer?
We're simply talking about the professional level of the game, which generally attracts and promotes interest, particularly with the younger generation, that has the means to relate to the younger players who might be inclined to take up the sport and increase interest.
Maybe I'm wrong, but perhaps you've entirely misinterpreted my post?
I'm talking more about "inclusion" and "adaptability". I don't care how big the holes are, or how much the sport is dumbed-down to make everyone feel entitled or special. If you refuse to at least consider the perception of an entirely different generation of people and how they relate to your sport - you're living on borrowed time.
Iâm 5â11â , 205. Before I buy clothing I try it on. All my clothing is comfortable, my suit slacks are as comfortable as my shorts. I can wear large shirts but I buy xl golf shirts because of comfort. Why are people so uncomfortable in a pair of well fitting slacks?
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I wear shorts year round, it's 0*F here in the Tri-state and I wear shorts whether I'm in the house or going out. I'm not comfortable in pants/slacks AT ALL. I don't even know wtf a slacks is fwiw. My neighbors think I'm goofy shoveling snow in shorts.
I take that back, when I work outside, on the job, I will wear pants of some kind under 50*F, depending on what I'm doing.
mikeintopeka I just don't see frisbees and kick-ball golf or 6+ inch holes as being the answer.
Amen, hallelujuah! Preach it!
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PA-PLAYA Where did I mention frisbees and kick-ball golf being the answer?
Of course you didn't mention it.
My written opinion was based on those gimmicks are being used to get the younger generation playing 'golf' around the country. Our Parks and Rec have several frisbee courses in our community, one adjacent to a beautiful 18 course on the shore of our muni lake, and the community hosts regional tournaments. Our club has a sister location that has a putt-putt course, driving range, and former 9 hole pitch and putt. The pitch and putt is now closed to all but foot golf. You don't see many 40+ year olds throwing frisbees at a wire basket or out kicking the ball down the fairway - this dumbing down is intended to get the younger generation interesting in the concept of golf.
I do not see how 200 touring pros are going to get an entire generation interested in the game. On a good week, they have 2 days of practice rounds/obligatory pro-ams, meet and greets with their sponsors and guests, then 4 days on the course. They then try to squeeze in as much range time as possible and then there isn't much time to commit to promotion of the sport. Here's another problem with promotion to a new generation of golfers: exposure. IF you would have had a stop watch on Fowler or even the tourney leader today, how much total air time did they get during the few hours of live coverage? 5 minutes or less? It's just hard to relate to the professional golfers.
Gary Woodland is our most successful local sports franchise. 99% of the citizens couldn't pick him out in a line-up and he's back here a lot visiting his parents and in-laws and doing some charity work for friends.
Tiger Woods understood this and was one of the founders of the First Tee program (his father Earl personally started at least 2 area chapters). He knew the importance of getting the local club pros to donate a few hours a month to put on clinics for the kids so they could learn to hit the ball with donated clubs/balls. This program helps knock down a couple of big barriers to the sport: access to instruction and access to free/inexpensive equipment; and most importantly - exposure to this great sport.
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Tinker Why are people so uncomfortable in a pair of well fitting slacks? -
Especially touring pros that have their clothes custom fit and/or tailored.
I understand. Just realize that the old, stuffy, stickler traditions arenât gonna warm up those who weâre looking to to pass the proverbial torch to.
I donât think any of us benefit from declining interest.
Not if you understand how the laws of business and economics work.
The very fact that some find an untuckable shirt being worn by a pro golfer, untucked per design, as an afront to the so-called pure image of the sport pretty much sums it up.
lol