I've hungered/chased after Adams forged CBs a long time , but never found a deal I couldn't pass on, so the itch remains unscratched . My older Ping V2 Raptures doing well in cool, wet winter conditions here & will be hard to beat for this geriatric hacker. With their modern lofts, Ti faces , tungsten sole inserts , wide soles, they are open backed hybrids with iron length shafts. Too forgiving , if you're trying to improve your ball striking , because they'll let you off the hook with most poor hits. No matter what I try, I always have come back to them, except in dry hard ground & short grass course conditions . Not a fan of their looks but performance trumps esthetics if you're not a good striker.