Yes, I can’t hit graphite v18

Nat

For the umpteenth time I put in graphite in my irons and I once again proved I can’t hit it. This time they went shorter on the few I got good hits on.
Back to steel and I will put in inserts and softer grips
Anyone want 3 used Maltby pro series r flex shafts
7i, 8i, 9i
Free. I want them out of my sight

Par4QC

Nat
🤔Too light, soft tips. Perhaps hands are staying behind the head, scooping??

Been there, done that.

Taki27

Nat before you take them apart (assuming you haven’t already), try to throw a back weight in them. When I first went to graphite it helped tremendously.

Nat

Taki27

I appreciate the suggestion
I have used a few that I’ve liked. All were 80gm+. These are 70 and feel too light.
And I really do prefer heavier steel.

Luc_Van_Daele

sdandrea1 I did the switch years ago for pain management. The transition was not easy. It takes time.

Same here, shoulder injurie made me switch to lightweight steel (-20gr) and it took me 6 months to get used to them.

Spuzz Lead tape and tip weights help, imo.

Taki27 try to throw a back weight in them.

Or do both :

Years back I experimented with a homemade tourlock system on my driver : open end grip and inserted backweights in 4gr increments, with and without lead tape to the head to adjust the swingweight. I got the best feel with the 12 and 16 gr backweights and lead tape. This was just 'on feel' switching back and forth between different set-ups.

From my mathematical model linking swingweight and MOI around the elbow joint this rule poped up : for every 10gr you go lighter in the shaft build them ¾ swingweight point heavier (tip weight or longer club) and get them back to normal swingweight by adding backweight.

I recently did this to "elbow-MOI" match my graphite clubs in the bag (62gr shafts) with my irons (105gr shafts): about 6-7gr lead tape to go from C9.7 to D3.0 and 12gr butt weight to bring them back just under D0. It does make a difference : I'm more consistent with the hybrid and fairway wood and gained some distance with the driver.

Eguller

PM sent 😊

ode

~ 50g difference ... what could go wrong🙃

Nat

ode

Now you tell me 😵

sdandrea1

I was at our short game practice area yesterday with grandson Jesse. We're about 50 yards out from the target green and picking which pin we're going to use for CTP. I was using my EYE 2+ graphite - shafted SW and he's got a KBS-shafted Cleveland CG15, 58*. We swapped wedges and were both able to do OK. Then I grabbed his 7 iron to try a bump and run. It felt like an anvil in my hands.

sdandrea1

I did the switch years ago for pain management. The transition was not easy. It takes time.

Spuzz

sdandrea1 The transition was not easy. It takes time.

Lead tape and tip weights help, imo.

Typhoon

Steelfiber

KCee

When I got fitted for graphite irons the fitter went about 3/8" longer and used Recoil 105 and then we still added backweights to the 5-7 irons. The end result wasn't as light as I expected, but my old irons had 125g steel and the 5 and 6 irons still had backweights so there was about a 20g drop.

Some of my buddies are playing 75g graphite shaft now and I can't hit their irons. Maybe if I MOI matched them and had backweights, but I think everyone has a static weight range they are comfortable with.

Typhoon

KCee I think more swing flaws come out if the shaft is too light. With heavier shafts you use your bigger muscles to generate power and are to keep the club on plane better. You’re not using those muscles if you’re swinging a whiffle ball bat, you’re using your hands.

Par4QC

Typhoon Bought a set of TM Sim2 irons once with the Ventus graphite. Could not swing those things at all. Pulled the shafts and discovered they were only 66g..

sdandrea1

Typhoon heavier shafts

Heavy is relative. When I was 50 years old, 120g steel shaft felt normal. Now a 70g shaft feels normal.

Typhoon

sdandrea1 it’s what muscles are needed to move heavy weight. Back when you were young your big muscles engaged to swing the heavier shafts. Now, you have to use the big muscles to move a 70 gram shaft.

Think a pitcher using force in his big muscles and core to get maximum velocity on a pitch. Now think about the muscles involved to throw a whiffle ball. Not the same.