Compress a Golf Ball

scotts33 · 2025-04-23T13:52:27+00:00

Depending on club head speed can you over or under compress a golf ball? To get best performance what's the ideal compression of a golf ball for under 90 mp...

scotts33

garyt1957 Yes that's what I thought but Mr. ShortGame's Trackman 86 mph driver SS indooor data says different. Hmmmm!

garyt1957

scotts33 Yes that's what I thought but Mr. ShortGame's Trackman 86 mph driver SS indooor data says different. Hmmmm!

I'm more interested in how he got 225 yards on 86 mph SS. That's about what I swing at and get less.

sdandrea1

garyt1957 I'm more interested in how he got 225 yards on 86 mph SS. That's about what I swing at and get less.

Internet truth vs reality.

scotts33

garyt1957 'm more interested in how he got 225 yards on 86 mph SS. That's about what I swing at and get less.

Me too. Real world outdoor reality and indoor are night and day for me.

Personally and this is anecdotal I like the Snell Get Sum (great name) 60, Callaway Supersoft 40, Srixon Soft Feel 60 an anything not scuffed up that I find on the course.

I just wondered if there was something to GolfBallAddict's claim of over compressing a low compression ball? I don't have to worry about that myself with mid 80's driver SS and 1.4 sec. transition time and mid-release. I kinda like the Get Sum cuz it seems to me to be higher spinning off driver and it keeps the ball in the air longer for maximum carry but 2 piece so it's relatively straight.

garyt1957

sdandrea1 Internet truth vs reality.

He also has a much better swing then me. I'm sure that factors in. But I've always felt I don't get the yardage I should . Probably a spin issue.

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scotts33

Snell Get Sum (great name)

This is a crazy nice feeling 2 pc ball on the softer side.

garyt1957

scotts33 This guy says you can over compress a golf ball. Has said many times with his 97 to 99 mph driver SS that he over compresses a low compression ball. This is where I started thinking about this factor. Just wondered what others thought.

My understanding is you can over compress a golf ball. Well I can't but it can be done. As for under compressing, who knows. Typhoon's research says even with a harder ball you still get good compression from the outer core even if you don't compress the inner core.
Now that the weather is getting better I'm going to have to experiment some.

scotts33

garyt1957 He also has a much better swing then me. I'm sure that factors in. But I've always felt I don't get the yardage I should . Probably a spin issue.

I've found when you start dropping below 90 mph you don't want a low spin ball or a low spin head that in general is for the big boys 100 mph and above. I want to dial in driver loft and face angle with your AofA plus tee height to get maximum carry when you are a lower driver SS player. That's how I look at it. It's hard to compare a player like Mr. ShortGame vs us older codgers.

Idea is start a YouTube golf channel for 70 and over has beens. 😆 These 55 - 60 year olders think they are old....NOT! lol

Par4QC

scotts33 This guy says you can over compress a golf ball.

When I see things like this, I always stop and ask myself the same question......what is logical vs. reality?

Reality is the fella is ~~trying to make~~ making a living by posting videos(17K subscribers/400 videos= $$$$).

Logic tells me that NO golf ball company would produce a golf ball that only certain players could play. They do make balls 'for women' but are not stated as 'for women only', or even slow swingspeeds. In fact, a lot of us, maybe, should be using them.....I found one a few years ago and it was much longer than the 'men's' version of the same ball.

I have yet to see any warnings from any golf ball company about using/not using their product, or a certain product.

As in my post above about playing with guys that can and do hit the balls over 300, I'm going to say it is impossible to over-compress a ball, yet I have no 'real' proof of that statement except for on course.....that is reality! I've given Jake a variety of balls, he has no idea of compressions, and he will hit them fairly much the same distances.

btw....TM has got the worst ball ever put out.....that new(er) Super Soft. Shortest ball ever.
I totally flatten it!!🤣😄

Typhoon

scotts33 I've found when you start dropping below 90 mph you don't want a low spin bal

Yup, that’s why Golf Tec for example says everyone should use a premium ball. Multi layers so the ball will be higher spin off some layers and lower spin off other layers. You don’t want the one trick pony range rock.

ode

scotts33 I don't believe that is actually a thing per the testing as it relates to slower ss and firmer balls. I suspect few play those balls per not liking the firmer feel and part of that maybe a perception that there is not as much distance. MGS seems to believe thru the testing that it's not true! I don't like the super low compression as they feel like mush and IMO it is more difficult to tell where on the face I hit it. Does that mean over compress and loss of distance🤔.

raggmann54

I think these Youtube guys, first off, are looking for "clicks" for the $$$...They don't have the necessary equipment to actually validate their opinion - Trackman??? I can "rig" the data to suit any outcome you might want - 86 mph SS results in 225 yard drive, maybe if you did it at top of Mt. Everest and included the roll...If this was truly something important I would bet that the big golf ball companies would have already tested it to death and have reams of data, physics and Iron Byron results, etc. to back up the claim. If it were really, really, really a factor the slimeballs in Marketing Dept. would be producing all sorts of brochures depicting compression or lack thereof proving we should buy their golf ball.

KCee

garyt1957 This is what I tend to see in my game as well. I like the urethane covered balls for some check around the greens so I'm going premium, but the lower compression version of the premium ball does seem to give me a boost with the irons. I like this as I sometimes still have just enough pop to get over some trees at my course.

With some balls it seems to even out as the driver goes 10 less, but the iron goes 10 more. Some seem to give me a bit more overall like the Chrome Tour. Still it's not game changing so I will play a less $$ ball like the Oncore Elixr or Legato and they're fine.

Typhoon

Thank you for this thread Scott… the responses are more in line for what I wanted in my thread a month ago about golf balls. Seems a few guys are putting some thought into it. All I got were a lot of “get off my lawn” 2 piece balls go further answers 🙄

sdandrea1

Typhoon All I got were a lot of “get off my lawn” 2 piece balls go further answers

Giphy - Baby Boomer GIF by MOODMAN
🤣🤣

DC300

scotts33 definitively, yes you can over compress the ball to the point of poor performance. Thanks to the Precept Lady becoming popular, low compression balls flooded the market for a while and drove me insane. The lower compression balls were actually comical at my club head speed, which at the time was in the 120s with the driver. The ball print on the face was larger than the circumference of the ball. It went substantially shorter distance off the tee and I never felt confident in the irons as I got a lot of “fliers”.

scotts33

So, if you can over compress a ball. Can you under compress it?

Golf ball manufacturers must think that as they market their lower compression balls to the slow swing segment of golf. ie. Bridgestone specially says in their advertising blurb the Tour B line for over 105 driver SS and under 105 driver SS. Most others also list balls for specific driver SS range. So, if that follows then high compression balls aren't for everyone as MGS says, correct? That is if you believe you can't compress a 100 compression ball with a 85 mph driver SS, yes? Or is it price?

I would guess price factors into this a lot. Is a $4 - $5 ball going to lower your scores or is this just like the LAB putter. Spend the money on the best putter it might save you a stroke of two and damn the cost. And if price/cost is huge why are golfers even bagging new stuff go to a thrift store and pick up a set of clubs with bag for $25 - $50 and go play golf. 😁

And IF you got the money, who cares right? ☺

BTW I should add on edit. IF you are resolute in playing a USA made golf balls then you are going to play a premium $4 - $5/ball.

Titleist
ProV1 and ProV1X Titleist Ball Plant III, measures 190,000-square-feet, and is located at 215 Duchaine Boulevard, in New Bedford, Massachusetts.

Callaway
Chrome Soft Chrome Soft Triple Track Golf Balls Chicopee, MA and Callaway has a plant in Carlsbad, CA

Bridgestone
Tour B line Covington, Georgia.

TaylorMade
TP5 and TP5X Liberty, South Carolina

To me that the biggest argument to play a USA made golf ball not so much the data and testing. Just me. Cuz I gotta be just about the ONLY G'Buzzer that plays an ALL American set from driver to putter and an old 80's USA made bag. ☺

DC300

scotts33 I would be interested in the data on under compression. It would seem to me, the harder the ball the better the energy transfer so for distance it would be the harder the better. Now imparting spin /feel is different. I know there was a lot of bluster about the compression creating a bouncy ball type effect and people bought into the low compression ball fun. I wonder if that wasn’t more marketing than reality. All I can undoubtedly point to is the long drive world where it feels like you are hitting rocks, but it sure does go.

scotts33

Yah know just thought of this that the premium balls are all made mostly in USA they are missing the boat on marketing that aspect of production....play a golf ball made in the USA.

New Balance athletic shoes some of them are made in Denver, CO https://www.newbalance.com/made-in-the-usa/

Nana Mangove Pro golf shoes I believe are made in Mesa, AZ. https://www.athalonz.com/products/mana-mangrove-pro

Par4QC

scotts33 I just built a brand new driver the other day.
Head & shaft made in U.S.. I am looking for a grip made here also. Trying to stay away from the ugly Star though.

3 guesses.......😉

scotts33

Par4QC Although I am looking for a grip made here also.

StarGrip PHX, AZ

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