I got a set of these (4-gw) from Taki, I shafted them with FST 115 trimmed stiff and put on some GP Tour Velvet +4 midsize grips. I don't know where these are loft and lie wise, I just decided to hit them like they are first. The one thing I did do is put the stock 6 gr weights in (Taki included a bunch of weights). I went to Palmbrook this morning expecting to just put in a range session but when I got there they were wide open (probably because it's hotter than the devil's anus right now). I headed to the first tee without hitting any warmup balls. I gotta say these irons are great. I wish I got a set a long time ago.