Irons for accuracy, better impact, etc

DonM · 2022-09-17T01:26:29+00:00

Have any of you tried to build to encourage a smoother swing, better contact, that sort of thing? I’ve fought irons for years and I’m sick of it. My Moe No...

DonM

scotts33 I'm not using the JumboMax.

DonM

scotts33 So a question would be, let's say I build very short heavy irons. I only swing in the low 70s. How bad is it going to be?

scotts33

DonM So a question would be, let's say I build very short heavy irons. I only swing in the low 70s. How bad is it going to be?

You won't know until you build a test club or take one of the ones you have and add lead tape and see what happens swing and impact wise. I think that's where I'd start.

What do you normally use for irons shafts?

DonM

scotts33 Hah, you'll roll your eyes. I'm using 66 gram UST iRN R flex. They are even counterbalanced by design. BUT. They have been by far the best I've found for getting the middle of the clubface onto the ball, and hitting the low point in the right spot.

They are probably too light. But everything heavier (that I've tried) causes the hits to start moving all over the face. Except for the heavier wedges. (Which I swing with a different intent. Hmmm.) I keep thinking there is some heavier shaft that will suit me. Russ Ryden does clubfitting 40 minutes from me, I was thinking about going to see him. But I think I'm asking for the impossible from a fitting.

DonM

Also I tried running lead tape along these shafts. At first it seemed to really help, but then it didn't. Of course.

scotts33

Are the wedge shafts also UST iRN R? The shaft profile of a UST iRN is stiffer than the majority of graphite iron shafts in the same weight range.

Russ is a good fitter but costly. Guess it comes down to can I figure this out myself as you are very knowledgeable and do I want to tinker or just pay the man?

DonM

scotts33 No, the wedge is a heavy Fuji graphite wedge shaft from Callaway. I get pretty similar swings with a DG shaft in the wedges. But the graphites fly higher and spin more.

It's interesting that the iRN profile is stiffer. The butt CPM is soft. I know, I know....
Throughout my life I've done better with soft butt, stiffer tip section in my irons.

I have to think outside the box on this, if there even is an equipment solution.

Typhoon

scotts33 Are the wedge shafts also UST iRN R? The shaft profile of a UST iRN is stiffer than the majority of graphite iron shafts in the same weight range.

Russ is a good fitter but costly. Guess it comes down to can I figure this out myself as you are very knowledgeable and do I want to tinker or just pay the man?

Wow… I thought I’d be the only one to suggest spending the money to get fit. And then get lambasted for saying it🙄. I’ve said before, the time and money some of you spend on crazy ideas makes no sense to me. Scott does this as an occupation… dials in his own weight and shaft material… done. And plays it day in and day out and sees his game improve. Also maybe a couple lessons if You’re hitting it right to right.

I don’t want to sound like a prick but if I have trouble with an electrical issue in the house I call an electrician rather than spend 2 weeks of my time and end up burning down the house.

scotts33

DonM I'm trying to figure out why the face control issues with the Norman swing with irons? Do you do the vertical drop like he did and drive? Maybe the correlation is you can't "feel" the head/shaft when you do that Norman move? With the clubs you can "feel" with lighter shafts the longer club length gives you that "feel"?

Par4QC

DonM Not sure if you have the problems talked about in another thread, but have you considered just going with steel shafts?
Or, like me....just need to get your ass out of the way?? I can't hit irons for anything as I don't remember what to do with my ass during the swing. I also hit wedges good, but anything longer is just a POS in my hands any more.

DonM

scotts33 Let me monkey with the swing and chew on that. Just right now I've had the idea that I'm trying to be slightly too flat with the irons and that seems to make my hips want to take charge more than they should.

DonM

Par4QC Haha, I start telling myself, that's why they make 13 and 15 woods!

Par4QC

DonM I'm trying to be slightly too flat with the irons and that seems to make my hips want to take charge more than they should.

ahhh, think we're onto something!😉

scotts33

DonM Just right now I've had the idea that I'm trying to be slightly too flat with the irons and that seems to make my hips want to take charge more than they should.

Yep heft issue can't "feel" the head/shaft lower body leads and takes over can't release the face left open and push is the result.

Typhoon has a point about over thinking especially when self doubt increases when one is having specific issues.

Par4QC

DonM I'm starting to do this with my hybrids now. Driver is fine. Wedges are fine. We need to learn how to hit 300+ off the tee, then we'll be good to go.

Typhoon

Par4QC DonM I'm trying to be slightly too flat with the irons and that seems to make my hips want to take charge more than they should.

ahhh, think we're onto something!😉

Here you go Don…😂😂

DonM

Typhoon I have come to that conclusion a few years ago. When shaft prices went through the roof. I could try 10 different iron test shafts on my own, it would take a few months and $400. And still might not be there.

sdandrea1

I gave up on irons lower than 36 loft. I use a Driver, 5w (20), 11w (27), 6h(31), 8h (36), Fat-Soled PW (43), then my TE Forged PW (48), GW, SW.
I'm just going to lighter, easier-to-launch clubs as I age.

scotts33

Every G'Buzzer has what works for them and their own perspective. Try to look at it from Don's perspective and his swing. 😄

garyt1957

DonM Everyone has that thing that is harder than the rest. Irons are mine.

Hello, you called me?

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