Sneakylong I think Peyton has had a great hall of fame career. My issue as you know is in the huge disparity in how the media and people in general went after Brady and gave Peyton a pass on the HGH and now want to do the same (dismiss it) with the sexual assault. Obvious media bias and double standard IMO.

If these two allegations were against Brady there would be non stop media coverage.

The media, in general, all report with bias. I wonder why they think it's more fun to hate Brady...............

      I think this revelation is a game changer: Naught right called sexual assault center day of incident. ESPN is all over this. Her words that day lend credibility to her allegations.

        Toulon

        I heard this as well. Very telling IMO.

        I think what we're seeing in the media as well as with some here is the painting of Manning as the victim. Even the Sports Reporters on ESPN had that take. Tampa Bay Times Sports columnists Tom Jones called them out on this in Sundays paper.

        I think with the HGH story as well as the sexual assault case it all ensures that Peyton will retire. It will be interesting if any of his sponsors drop him.

          Not looking good for Peyton that's for sure. Gotta believe those on the fence have jumped off against him now. He does have quite the PR machine especially with Ari Fleischer working for him now. The Packers used him not long ago.

          I had no clue what to believe but now if you asked me to bet, I'd put my money on his guilt. That Manning family is something. I still can't believe Eli didn't get hammered more for his San Diego stunt orchestrated by Archie. Always Teflon and immune from everything. Might finally be changing.

          sdandrea1

          http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/02/21/roger-goodell-new-england-patriots-nfl-draft-picks-combine-preview

          One reason would be because it's fun to try to take down a winner, especially if the thinking is they've won because of nefarious doings. Peter King now says that Goodell should give the draft picks back and gives the details of why he thinks that. Even one NFL team exec said the punishment was draconian.

          Peyton was the media darling coming out of college being the number 1 pick etc.. That hasn't changed much over the years. Sixth round draft pick Brady threw a monkey wrench into what Manning could've achieved.

          It's complicated and would probably take a psychologist to try to explain it.

              Sneakylong Sixth round draft pick Brady threw a monkey wrench into what Manning could've achieved.

              Wrong! Indy's crappy defense, and lack of a decent running game was the problem. You notice how Denver beat New England and Brady this post season. It's the same way the Giants and Ravens, and any other team that gives Brady fits beats them. You pound him into the pavement with a beast of a defensive line and linebackers that are on him like white on rice on every play.

              It's only been 15 years, but I'm still waiting for the three other teams in the AFC East to figure this out.

                  PIGDivot

                  New England's crappy offensive line contributed to Denver's impressive defense against them. In order to do what Denver did you need great edge rushers and a very good secondary. If you haven't got those and you put 8 in the box a QB like Brady will torch you. Most teams especially in the AFC east don't have those two things, hence why the Patriots are perennial winners in that division.

                    I'll give Tom Brady this much credit - if you give him sufficient protection - the odds of beating him become extremely low, even with him relying on an average receiving corps.

                    But on that same token - you just have to credit Denver for recognizing where the Pats weaknesses were and exploiting them. Even at that - they damned near lost that game, and all because of Brady's awareness. I'm not going to trash Brady in what might appear to some as an effort to endlessly defend Manning from something that may or may not have happened 20 years ago.

                    To be completely fair - I would be no different if it were Brady being exploited for something he may or may not have done 20 years ago.

                    I ain't that petty, and I sure as hell ain't that stupid.

                    sdandrea1 The media, in general, all report with bias. I wonder why they think it's more fun to hate Brady...............

                    I don't think the media hates Brady. He gets pulled down by the reputation of Belichick and the Patriots. The cheating incidents have tainted the organization as a whole and Brady is the face of the team. People were willing to believe deflategate because the reputation had already been established. Do I think any of the crap Belichick has pulled helped the Patriots much to win games? No. He is stupid for giving rival fans ammunition to discredit their success.

                      professor I hate Brady. I also think he's one of the best QB's I've seen in my lifetime. I hate Brady because I'm jealous. He sleeps with Gisele! He is such a loser!

                      Gisele will grow weary of him sooner or later - you'll have a shot professor. 8*)

                        MidwayJ

                        Wow. That's sensationalism at it's finest. This Naughtright, if portrayed accurately above, sounds like a delight of a person. Sarcasm. She sounds like a gold digger big time.

                        This is the issue with these things...we never really get to know. I hate that. One day it sounds like Manning is a first class pppprick and the next it sounds like he's the victim.

                        Now, he's gay and likes to smoke poles? Wow, wow, wow. Well, he and Papa John did kiss on the field after the SB...not that there's anything wrong with that.

                        Can't wait to see what happens next. 🙁

                            Toulon Well, he and Papa John did kiss on the field after the SB...not that there's anything wrong with that.

                            Can't wait to see what happens next.

                            Next we'll hear that he and Joe Montana are "partners" - NTTAWWT. They could appear on the Jerry Springer show!

                              Speaking of Joe Montana... one of the rumors from the industry I used to work in was that he never had back surgery (there's no scar, allegedly) and he was suspended by the NFL (secretly) for a raging cocaine addiction which accounted for the "recovery time" for the surgery he never had.

                              If Peyton and him are "buddies" Peyton probably wishes his name was "Joe" so he could be "Smokin' Joe".

                              Sneakylong Tom and Gisele bought a home on the Brookline Country Club Golf Course (home of the 1999 Ryder Cup). The powers that be haven't allowed him to join yet (and may not). So he's obvious not great enough for the blue bloods at Brookline.

                              They don't believe his handicap index..............................8*)

                                  sdandrea1 Sneakylong Tom and Gisele bought a home on the Brookline Country Club Golf Course (home of the 1999 Ryder Cup). The powers that be haven't allowed him to join yet (and may not). So he's obvious not great enough for the blue bloods at Brookline.
                                  They don't believe his handicap index..............................8*)

                                  It's deflated?

                                  Sorry, couldn't help myself
                                  :/

                                    ValueGolf

                                    According to Freeman, Manning is able to get away with this because he is to a certain degree immune from criticism.

                                    “Part of the reason why Manning hits back twice as hard—which is his right—is because he knows he’ll receive cover from large swaths of the media who will believe anything he says,” he wrote. “There are football writers, lots of them, that would lay their bodies over a puddle of water and let Manning walk over their bodies so his cleats don’t get wet.”

                                    Don't get too wet yourself.